Thought Police

[Matt Pruett]

Back in early high school I was seeking my first job, and applied at
Radio Shack (LOL) they decided that they would hire me, so I sat down to
sign the paperwork and whatnot, reading through it I read a very similar
line to the one you mentioned, where any programs that I write even on
my own time would become property of Radio Shack, I was pretty shure
they couldent do that anyway but I questioned them about it and turned
down the job offer after they failed to provide any reasonable
explination or resolution. Its pretty crazy, someone should look into
that. hehe

On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 13:49, Derek Neighbors wrote:
> > BUT, in order to get this assignment, I signed the most
> > preposterous agreement you could imagine:  not only get
> > they have the rights to any software or inventions I might
> > create during my hitch with them that might have any
> > bearing on their business; but any PAST creations!
> 
> This is ludicrous that they would even have someone sign something like
> this.
> 
> > Now, I can see one very sound reason for their making
> > people sign stuff like this:  suppose I were to
> > incorporate some "invention" of mine, old or new, into
> > something that I did for them?  Once they were
> > committed to using it, I could come back to them and
> > bill them for royalties for using "my" idea.  This is
> > the kind of distorted behavior businesses are driven
> > to, under the threat of IP litigation.
> 
> IANAL, but lets start again with throwing out that dirty useless word
> "Intellectual Property".  As to your prior work there is abosuletly no
> need for them make you sign something saying in essence they own
> anything you have ever done.
> 
> To properly cover themselves for 'copyright' violations, they simply
> would need to have you sign some sort of disclaimer saying that would
> not use any prior work you have copyrighted in anything you do for them
> and if you do that they are given copyright for it.  This would not be
> giving them full rights to your work, but merely having you agree not to
> use your prior work or if you do giving them equal rights so that you
> couldnt pull the rug from under them.
> 
> To properly cover themselves for 'patent' issues, they simply need have
> you sign something stating any prior work you have done that you use
> while employed there will be giving free license to them to use, thus
> stopping assuring you cant screw them.
> 
> In both of these cases the signing doesnt give them anything as long as
> you dont use anything from your past there.  If you use something from
> your past there it doesnt remove your rights, it simply gives them equal
> rights but ONLY to those works that are used not all prior work you have
> done.
> 
> The sick thing is that under the guise of "Intellectual Property"
> companies are getting people to sign things that are down right criminal
> and borderline on 'theft', and people do so because eating is more
> important than fighting in most cases.
> 
> -Derek
> 
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