Linux for small business

Matt Alexander plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Sun, 28 Apr 2002 18:54:14 -0700 (PDT)


 +--------------+
 |    PLEASE    |
 | DO NOT  FEED |
 |  THE TROLLS  |
 |    --The Mgt.|
 +------++------+
        ||
 o o o  ||    *
,,\|/,,,||,,,/,,,
---+--------------



On Sun, 28 Apr 2002, Tom Achtenberg wrote:

> Your first paragraph puts you at odds with the gnu project according to
> their manifesto.  If you had a business they would boycott you over just
> that.  I offer as an example that fact they are boycotting Amazon because
> they had the audacity to copyright the One Click" ordering.  After a suit
> with Barnes & Nobel over it was settled, the boycott continues because "the
> terms of the settlement" were not released.  Those people at the gnu project
> have obviously been smoking that wacky tobacco since the 60's non stop.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Cober" <cplusplus@cox.net>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux for small business
>
>
> Tom - I agree with you that not all software should not be free.  I believe
> there is nothing wrong with charging money for software in some
> circumstances, and keeping the source closed.
>
> However, I also believe that the open-source , free software model is
> perfect for certain types of software.  I also think it can produce a
> superior product.  Take a Web Server for example.  Apache is an outstanding
> product.  It is needed by millions of people and actively developed by
> thousands of developers.  Sendmail is another example.  But the best example
> is the Linux kernel itself.
>
> For these types of "commodity software", open-source leverages the talents
> of a large number of developers and testers to create a product that would
> be difficult and expensive to reproduce in a closed-environment.  An
> Operating System should be developed by society for society.  Think of it
> like freeway system.  Society builds it for society.  Nobody "owns" the
> freeway.  Another analogy would be our government process.  Nobody "owns"
> the way a democracy runs.  The processes and checks and balances are public,
> free, knowledge.
>
> As a software user, you are much better off using open-source than
> closed-source.  By using open-source you empower yourself and others the
> ability to maintain, modify, and enhance your software.  As a software user
> if there are 2 identical products, 1 open 1 closed, you should opt for the
> open one.  But not all products are availible closed-source, nor should they
> be.
>
> Open-source can be good(especially for users).  Closed-source can be
> good(especially for developers that need to make money selling their
> software).
>
> ;-)
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Achtenberg" <lists@achtenberg.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 1:53 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux for small business
>
>
> > Sorry, but after reading the first line of the "About Free Software"
> > section, "Free software is a matter of freedom: people should be free to
> use
> > software in all the ways that are socially useful. "  I cannot buy into
> this
> > "movement"  The clear implication is they feel anything someone writes
> > belongs to everyone, not the person who wrote it.  That is the very system
> > that was tried and failed miserably in Easter Europe.  I do not and will
> not
> > buy into it in the least.  It is the same mentality that drove me away
> from
> > the Libertarian party in the political world.  Under that system, there is
> > no incentive to improve or excel.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gontran Zepeda" <gontran@gontran.net>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Linux for small business
> >
> >
> > * Tom Achtenberg (lists@achtenberg.com) wrote:
> > > RE: Linux for small businessI don't see a whole lot of difference
> between
> > > the "Free Software Movement" and the "Shareware" movement.  Just a
> > > different platform.
> >
> > Harumph.
> >
> > See:
> > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html
> >
> > And related documents there at gnu.org
> >
> >
> > Gontran
> > ________________________________________________
> > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> post
> > to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> >
> > PLUG-discuss mailing list  -  PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002
> >
> > ________________________________________________
> > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> >
> > PLUG-discuss mailing list  -  PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
> ________________________________________________
> See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post
> to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
>
> PLUG-discuss mailing list  -  PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>
>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002
>
> ________________________________________________
> See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
>
> PLUG-discuss mailing list  -  PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>