Microsoft Final Solution 2000

[Tom Achtenberg]

In fairness to Richard, he lives in the UK where there is a vastly different health care system and probably a different licensing system.  The UK part threw me in that I had the impression that this was a local Phoenix list and he did not mention in his post that he was referring to the UK's health care system.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Toft [mailto:george@georgetoft.com]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:06 AM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: Microsoft Final Solution 2000


Greetings,

Not meaning to fuel the fire, and having performed advanced research
on the Total Cost of Ownership of various server platforms, I am 
intrigued by Richard's comments.  Like Tom, I would like to see
some references to back them up.

My research indicates that for small workgroups (a stand-alone would
be a workgroup of one), Microsoft-based platforms are less expensive
than Unix (even Linux) based platforms.  The admin labor (Windows 
admins being cheaper than Unix admins) offsets the licensing cost 
and productivity loss during unplanned outages.

George


Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> 
> When I was in HS punch cards were in use and memory was done with cores.  That said, in my kids schools here in the Valley in the 90's, they had nothing but MAC's until high school then a few IBM's showed up but most of the teachers didn't know how to use anything but the mac's.  Even in college at GCC there is still about half mac's in the lab.  I can't speak for other countries, but here Apple is well known for it's free computers to schools program.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Digital Wokan [mailto:wokan@home.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:09 AM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Final Solution 2000
> 
> Actually, back in high school (circa 86-90), we had 12 Apple //e's, and
> Apple //gs, and over 50 IBM PS/2's (Model 50 something, I believe).  Not
> one Mac.  (Of course, we were maybe 50 miles from one of IBM's
> distribution centers.)
> 
> Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> >
> > Before you make statements like these you need to offer some believable
> > proof.  Most schools have Mac's and I find it extremely hard to believe even
> > one patient in a hospital has died due to MS licensing payments.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Richard
> > Ibbotson
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 3:38 AM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: Microsoft Final Solution 2000
> >
> > Dear all
> >
> > > http://www.mindspring.com/~jkenner/msad.html
> >
> > I remember seeing this when it first came along.  At that time I
> > thought it was very funny.
> >
> > Since then I've done a fair bit of research into various Government
> > departments.  Most of which don't have very much money.  Fact is that
> > MS have done more serious damage to more schools and hospitals over
> > here than any other proper "enemy of the State" ever did.  Children
> > are receiving a poor education because money is spent on software
> > rather than teachers and patients die because it's more important to
> > pay a massive bill for MS licences.
> >
> > So ....  perhaps the picture at that bottom of that page isn't quite
> > as funny as it was last year ?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Richard
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