They forgot to mention Hannibal. That concept alone should be enough to cause shivers down their spines. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan England" <plug@the-arcanum.org> To: "Plug Discussion" <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 10:31 PM Subject: Way OT: <--> [Fwd: CNN Message Board Post]