Advice

[George Toft]

Hi All,

From where I'm at, we have both degreed (Masters, Bachelors), and
non-degreed.  Each had very similar experience (actually, the non-degree
had far more Sun experience than the others), but the starting salaries
were directly proportional to the degree obtained.

Coming from the Academia, I must disagree with the idea that degrees
are not required.  Degrees are very important.  I've never met a
degreed engineer that could not think through a problem, yet I deal
with many people with certifications that have no idea what they are
doing or why they are doing it.

Get the work experience and get the degree.

George


Alan Dayley wrote:
> 
> This is very refreshing!  A hiring manager that doesn't automatically throw
> you out because you don't have the paper!  Excellent!
> 
> One question:  When interviewing canidates, degreed/certified or not, how
> do you determine if they "don't understand TCP/IP, subneting, SMTP, Unix
> filesystems, computer hardware, etc..." or not?  Just curious.
> 
> Alan
> 
> At 01:17 PM 3/21/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Greetings Tyler,
> >
> >Allow me to insert my 2 bytes here.
> >
> >As a hiring IT/IS Director/Manager for 4 years at several companies, I can
> >tell you that the one thing that counts above all others is experience,
> >experience, experience and experience.  I have seen hundreds of resumes for
> >SysAdmins.  I don't care if you have a Masters in Electro-Warp Core
> >Technology or an Associates in Basketweaving.  If you don't understand
> >TCP/IP, subneting, SMTP, Unix filesystems, computer hardware, etc... you
> >would be of no use to me.
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