KDE Upgrade Help

Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:01:32 -0700

Thanks for your help, Kurt.  I do have RH 7.1 CDs that I am going to install
on another machine.  Unfortunately, my RH 6.2 box has a lot of development
files, it acts as my Samba server for my windows machines, and my printer
server.  It will remain RH 6.2 for the forseeable future.  KDE 2.1.0 is
installed and working well, I just thought I could get the latest updates
and resolve some of the minor annoyances in the various K apps.

Ok, now given the answers in the orginal thread below, this has sparked a
couple of other questions:

1) Is it possible to upgrade individual KDE apps, such as Konquerer or
KMail, instead of having to install a whole new kde-base RPM package?  If
this is possible, I'm assuming that it could only be done by compiling the
source of any given K app, which would lead to the next question.

2) I've run into the following problem a few times and was curious if there
is an easy was to resolve it.  On my RH 6.2 box all the applications are
installed via RPM.  If I wanted a new version of an application, but was
unable to get it in RPM format and had to compile it from source how does
this affect the RPM installation of the old version of the application?  For
example, if I were to compile the newest KDE from source, how would I
install it with the previous version of KDE installed via RPM?  If I were to
attempt to uninstall my current install of KDE (using RPM -e package-list) I
would get a host of dependency errors.  I tried doing this when I wanted to
upgrade to X-Free86 4.0.3 using the source code.  I tried uninstalling the
XFree86 3.3.6 RPM packages and there were so many dependency errors, I gave
up.  Is it the case that when you have sofware installed via RPM, you must
continue using RPM to upgrade that software, thus precluding you from ever
being able to use source code to upgrade to a newer version?

One last note: I would like to thank Kurt and the whole KDE team for
delivering a truly awesome window manager.
With KDE 2.1 I will be able to move my wife's computer from Win98 to
Linux/KDE and she will be able to do all her work.
She has seen me work on my KDE desktop and likes the look and feel a lot.
We both find the "fuzzy" setting on the clock especially amusing!!

Any thoughts regarding this RPM madness would be appreciated. :)
Thanks,
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Kurt
Granroth
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:38 AM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: KDE Upgrade Help

On Sunday 24 June 2001 01:07 am, az_pete wrote:
> I am currently trying to upgrade my KDE 2.1.0 installation to the new KDE
> libs 2.1.2 along with several newer KDE packages versions 2.1.1.
> I am using Redhat 6.2.  When I try to upgrade to the kdelibs 2.1.2 package
> there are several pacakge dependency errors.  The most significant of
which
> are:
> 'kdesupport >= 2.1.-3 is needed by kdelibs-2.1.2-1" and
> "libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is need by kdelibs-2.1.2-1"
>
> My current glibc pacakges installed are gblic-2.1.3.-15.
>
> My questions are:
> 1) Is it safe/advisable to upgrade glibc from 2.1 -> 2.2.  I'm not a C
> programmer, so I'm uncertain if upgrading these system libraries will open
> a whole other can of worms.  Or is it the case to simply install glibc 2.2
> and have 2 versions resident on the system at the same time?

I wouldn't recommend *either* unless you really know what you are doing.  I
remember upgrading my system from a.out to elf by hand and from libc5 to
glibc as well... but I had way too much time I my hands back then and I
didn't have anything even remotely important on those systems.

Upgrading your libc is NOT for the faint of heart so think carefully before
you attempt to do it.

> 2) Since I was only able to find the kdelibs 2.1.2 packages and the
> kdesupport 2.1-3 package available in the RedHat 7.1 distribution
directory
> on the KDE ftp site, then is that to say I cannot use those packages on my
> RH 6.2 system?

Right, you cannot.  Packages for RedHat 7 and above will *not* work for any
earlier version of RedHat.

> My objective is to get the latest and greatest KDE version installed on my
> RH 6.2 system.  Any help would be apprectiated :)

I'm afraid in the case of KDE, you'll have to compile from source.  We
depend
on the vendors for binaries of KDE and RedHat just doesn't support anything
but 7.1 right now.

You could also upgrade to 7.1 (I'm sure somebody here has a CD you can
borrow
or have).
--
Kurt Granroth            | http://www.granroth.org
KDE Developer/Evangelist | SuSE Labs Open Source Developer
granroth@kde.org         | granroth@suse.com
            KDE -- Conquer Your Desktop
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