Final Voting process NPO name

[Kimi Adams]

Jim is closer to the correct answer.  As an NPO, we can accept funds from 
any source that we raise it from.  PLUG cannot because it lacks legal 
formation.  As an NPO, we cannot do certain things that a group like PLUG 
can, such as lobbying for laws.

I believe that was the turning point in having PLUG NPO or an umbrella NPO.

Kimi

At 6/11/01 01:12 PM, you wrote:
>Nope Brian - you are not wrong.  The only issue is just how PLUG would
>handle the money that came to it - from any source.  We do not have any
>formal organization, any officers, etc.  That pretty much religates PLUG
>to doing whatever it can without outside assistance.
>
>Now when the NPO is up and running, PLUG can be the primary sponsor of an
>event under the auspices of the NPO and should be able to expect the NPO
>to use funds donated for that event to make it successful.  So, I guess
>this is kind of a way for PLUG to do events without formalizing the
>organization.  But the NPO has a lot of other inherent benefits for
>individuals, companies, and user groups.
>
>On Monday 11 June 2001 12:53, you wrote:
> > I dont see this as being a problem.  If a company gives money to plug..
> > or more specifically give money to the NPO stating that this money is
> > for plug. Then the money is for plug to decide what to do with.  They
> > would just have to stick with any prerequisites that the NPO or the
> > money donor comes up with.
> > Am I wrong?
> >
> > Brian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > > The very reason that you see them having seperate goals is why I think
> > > we need to have separate NPO's I mean I'm sure *most* of the time
> > > we'll be in agreement. But if company X gives money to PLUG then the
> > > NPO disagrees on using that money for something PLUG agrees on. We'll
> > > have a problem.  I'd rather we didn't have to deal with that. Setting
> > > up a NPO for Plug would allow companies to give directly to PLUG. Or
> > > if they want more bang for their buck they can give to the Superset
> > > group NPO. But Plug would have its on budgit to do its own things
> > > with. I do agree that it makes twice as much paperwork though.
> > >
> > > Carl P.
> > >
> > > Jim wrote:
> > > >Because that is a job for PLUG.  PLUG needs to be doing a better job
> > > > of promoting itself.  Why hasnt it?  Maybe because no one has
> > > > offered to
> >
> > help
> >
> > > >promote PLUG.
> > > >
> > > >The NPO will promote PLUG and all the other LUGs in Az.  It will
> >
> > primarily
> >
> > > >focus on educating the masses, but it will also be a resource for
> >
> > support.
> >
> > > > LUGs are a great source of both source and community.
> > > >
> > > >On Monday 11 June 2001 10:20, you wrote:
> > > >><rant>
> > > >>How about none of these and instead of doing some completely insane
> > > >>over the top NPO that try's to cover every aspect of free software
> > > >>in AZ, we focus on just keeping the local Linux community growing?
> > > >>
> > > >>I mean, I run into people in over town who've been running Linux
> > > >>for years and don't know about PLUG's existence.
> > > >></rant>
> > > >>
> > > >>~Deepak
> > > >>
> > > >>On Jun 10 2001, at 20:13, Kimi Adams was caught saying:
> > > >>>As promised, here are the names that have been mentioned most in
> > > >>> the past few days.  Sorry that it's a little later in the day that
> > > >>> expected.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Please vote appropriately one last time to
> > > >>>npo@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us so that it can be tracked.  Final
> > > >>> voting must be done by Tuesday.  Please tell everyone that you
> > > >>> know to view this listing and vote for one of these names.
> > > >>> Remember that the name should really make sense but one that is
> > > >>> memorable will stick.  Speak them aloud several times to see if
> > > >>> one makes more sense than another.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Freedom Arizona
> > > >>>Arizona Open Technology Association
> > > >>>Unfettered Software of Arizona
> > > >>>Open Technology Advocacy Society of Arizona (OTASA)
> > > >>>Association for Sane Software
> > > >>>Arizona Alternative Software Advocates
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Cross your fingers...............
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Kimi
> > > >>>________________________________________________
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> > > >>> mail.
> > > >>>
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>Jim
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