internet terrorism (A preview of whats to come if windows XP makes it to the home market)

[George Toft]

Hi TH,

Could you tell us the name of the Manager that told you that the Terms 
of Service worked both ways and the date of that disclosure?  This is 
valuable information.

Thank you.

George


Technomage wrote:
> 
> well,
> telnet is nothing new......
> However, I know what ports backorigfice likes to hang out on and those
> are the ports that mindspring should have been looking for. However,
> given
> recent changes to the TOS of a lot of ISP's, they won't allow you to
> portscan
> anyone, and yet they do it to their users.
> 
> I caught qwest.net doing this 4 days ago and called them on the carpet
> about it... I reminded them that their terms of service operates both
> ways.
> if I am not allowed to portscan, etc., then neither are they....The
> person
> on the far end objected to this, and I requested a supervisor.
> 
> I finally got far enough up the chain that someone actually took me
> seriously (they checked with their legal dept and it turns out that
> the way the TOS was written, it prevents them forom also doing the
> same things that they prohibit their users from doing). so, no more
> portscans or unwanted connections from qwest.net....
> 
> However, on thursday afternoon at around 13:30, my circuit died for
> no explainable reason. it took 4 hours and a lot of arguing with tech
> support before I found ut 2 things: a board in the dslam died, and
> someone made changes to my account without consulting me. because
> of the account changes, the tech support was prevented from initiating
> repairs. It took another round of calls before I got someone that
> actually started looking at things and made a decision....
> 
> as of 15 minutes ago, my circuiot came back up live again (ITS ABOUT
> DAMNED TIME).
> 
> is qwest really worth this agravation?
> I am not so sure.
> 
> Technomage Hawke
> 
> Jason wrote:
> >
> > One of the things discussed in this article is the scanning of peoples
> > machines to see if they are infected with something.
> >
> > Reminds me of an incident in which I received an email from MindSpring
> > (at the time, ACTUALLY mindspring and not EarthStink) stating that I
> > probably had such a thing on my machine. I wrote back, asking them
> > what possibly made them think that.
> >
> > Turns out, one of their criteria for determining a machine had been
> > compromised was if it accepted telnet connections (!) because of a
> > tendency for BackOrifice-using hackers to open a COMMAND.COM on port
> > 23...
> >
> > Technomage wrote:
> > > I would suggest reading this ASAP.
> > > http://grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm
> >
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