computer networkers, please rise

David Mandala plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Thu, 20 Dec 2001 16:32:02 -0700


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I'd guess that you could control the assignments using the cardctl software
eject both slots, then again using the cardctl software insert 1 at a time
in the order you want them to appear.

Cheers,
Davidm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric [mailto:swive@getnet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:34 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: RE: computer networkers, please rise
> 
> 
> well thanks for the comments.  its all working now that i 
> have manipulated
> my routing tables and now that i have figured out that the 
> top pcmcia slot
> is sometimes eth0 and sometimes eth1.  thanks for your help
> 
> eric
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On 
> Behalf Of Matt
> > Alexander
> > Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:26 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: RE: computer networkers, please rise
> >
> >
> > I remember reading somewhere that Linux assigns each eth device in a
> > particular order based on the PCI slot.  I think maybe it 
> was the PCI slot
> > closest to the CPU would become eth0 and the next would 
> become eth1, etc.
> > I could be completely off about this, however.  In the case 
> of PCMCIA
> > cards that you're using, you could try experimenting by 
> swapping them back
> > and forth, etc., to see which order it is on your system.  
> And for PCI
> > cards, you could plug one in at a time and configure it 
> before adding the
> > next one.
> > ~M
> >
> > __
> > If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Eric wrote:
> >
> > > With Linux, is there a for-sure way to know whether my top
> > pcmcia slot is
> > > eth0 or eth1?  I feel like linux is playing switch-a-roo on me
> > and messing
> > > me up.  Is that possible/likely/common?  I had this whole long
> > nice reply to
> > > some of the nice comments I received.  While doing so, I 
> accidentally
> > > plugged the cables into what "should" have been the wrong physical
> > > interfaces on HOST_B, but it turns out everything worked!
> > >
> > > That is, I plugged HOST_C/10.0.x.x into what "should have been"
> > > HOST_B/eth1/192.168.x.x while also "mistakenly" plugging 
> in HOST_B eht0
> > > 10.0.x.x into HOST_A 192.168.x.x.  But this all worked, but it
> > "shouldn't"
> > > have because of my (mis)understanding as to which 
> physical interface was
> > > assinged the logical interfaces eth1 or eth0.  Does that make
> > sense?  How
> > > can I tell which is really assigned to which?
> > >
> > >
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'd guess that you could control the assignments =
using the cardctl software eject both slots, then again using the =
cardctl software insert 1 at a time in the order you want them to =
appear.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cheers,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Davidm</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Eric [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:swive@getnet.com">mailto:swive@getnet.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 4:34 =
PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: =
plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: RE: computer networkers, please =
rise</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; well thanks for the comments.&nbsp; its all =
working now that i </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; have manipulated</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; my routing tables and now that i have figured =
out that the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; top pcmcia slot</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; is sometimes eth0 and sometimes eth1.&nbsp; =
thanks for your help</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; eric</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; From: =
plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us">mailto:plug-=
discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</A>]On </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Behalf Of Matt</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Alexander</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 1:26 =
PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; To: =
plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: computer networkers, please =
rise</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I remember reading somewhere that Linux =
assigns each eth device in a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; particular order based on the PCI =
slot.&nbsp; I think maybe it </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; was the PCI slot</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; closest to the CPU would become eth0 and =
the next would </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; become eth1, etc.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; I could be completely off about this, =
however.&nbsp; In the case </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; of PCMCIA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; cards that you're using, you could try =
experimenting by </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; swapping them back</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; and forth, etc., to see which order it is =
on your system.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; And for PCI</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; cards, you could plug one in at a time and =
configure it </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; before adding the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; next one.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; ~M</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; __</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; If you're not part of the solution, you're =
part of the precipitate.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Eric wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; With Linux, is there a for-sure way =
to know whether my top</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; pcmcia slot is</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; eth0 or eth1?&nbsp; I feel like linux =
is playing switch-a-roo on me</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; and messing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; me up.&nbsp; Is that =
possible/likely/common?&nbsp; I had this whole long</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; nice reply to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; some of the nice comments I =
received.&nbsp; While doing so, I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; accidentally</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; plugged the cables into what =
&quot;should&quot; have been the wrong physical</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; interfaces on HOST_B, but it turns =
out everything worked!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; That is, I plugged HOST_C/10.0.x.x =
into what &quot;should have been&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; HOST_B/eth1/192.168.x.x while also =
&quot;mistakenly&quot; plugging </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; in HOST_B eht0</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; 10.0.x.x into HOST_A =
192.168.x.x.&nbsp; But this all worked, but it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &quot;shouldn't&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; have because of my (mis)understanding =
as to which </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; physical interface was</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; assinged the logical interfaces eth1 =
or eth0.&nbsp; Does that make</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; sense?&nbsp; How</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt; can I tell which is really assigned =
to which?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</FONT>
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