Just in case you use IE...

robert jorgenson plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Sat, 15 Dec 2001 01:37:28 -0700


Well i guess its a matter of opinion...usually i am doing so many things
that the taskbar gets so cluttered you cant even tell which window is
which...and opera does have its own little taskbar that says what each
window is doing...so you can have your e-mail and web pages in that
taskbar and other stuff in windows taskbar and it gets less
cluttered...and you can easily switch between each window within opera
by using ctrl+alt+tab or ctrl+alt+shift+tab. Maybee its just me but i
really like opera mostly because of this...the only downside i have
found so far is that you cant stop pop-ups without turning off
javascript...and even that doesn't work sometimes =/

Victor Odhner wrote:
> 
> Jeff wrote:
> > What's this MDI error thing in Eudora?  I've used it for
> > 2 years, and prefer it to anything else on windows, but
> > have not seen an MDI error.
> 
> Not MDI *ERROR*, I'm complaining about the MDI *FRAME*.
> The fact that all the "windows" you open are stuck inside
> the same rectangle, that's called MDI.  You can't float
> a page or message outside of that frame.
> 
> Both Opera and Eudora do this, and I hate it.
> 
> This is a "religious discussion", and there is no right
> answer.  Robert Jorgenson cites it as a big advantage:
> > 1. you can have as many browser windows open as you
> >   want and it is all kept in one window so you dont
> >   clutter up your task bar
> 
> The task bar is a device for sorting out the different
> things you are doing.  Each e-mail message or web page
> that I have open is "something I am doing", so why not
> a separate entry on the task bar?
> 
> If they're all stuck inside one window, you can't give
> separate treatment to multiple pages or messages.  You
> can't shuffle them around in juxtaposition with one
> another, and so on.  I'm talking about the old desktop
> metaphor -- imagine if all your paper memos were stapled
> together so you could not arrange them on your desk.
> What if your dictionary, atlas and phone book were all
> bound into one volume?  That's your one-window browser.
> 
> Microsoft Word, through Word 97, used to use MDI.
> They broke loose with Word 2000, so now each document
> stands alone.
> 
> Eudora just seems klunky to me.  Reject.
> 
> I'm happy with Netscape 4.7 for e-mail.  Only gripe is
> that it won't honor my default browser setting when I click
> on links in e-mail messages.
> 
> I use Opera sometimes just because it's not IE5 or Netscape,
> and I use it for its right-click "Validate" feature when I
> am editing web pages.  On Linux, Opera works better for me
> than Netscape 4.7 -- I can' use Netscape 6.1, it bogs my
> machine down hopelessly.  I agree that Opera is very fast.
> 
> Other complaints about Opera:  I still don't know how to pull
> up a history of my last day or two of browsing, and does it
> have anything corresponding to IE5's "links" bar where you
> can keep frequently-used links handy?
> 
> Vic
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