Network Engineer

[Digital Wokan]

I was an ET2/SS, so you can figure my pay from there.  I'm assuming you
were up in the E-7 and above range to be making $45K (not adding in
stupid stuff like what they say our medical and commissary privileges
were worth).  I figure in the NorVA area I was making about $30K as an
E-5 (w/o the submarine pay since I didn't want to go back after shore
duty).

George Toft wrote:
> 
> Hi DW,
> 
> <rant>
> $45K is less than I made in the Military as an Enlisted for the last
> nine years I was there.  Is that because the Military is paid too much?
> No, we had people on food stamps.  My wife made $45K with no college
> required at AT&T in an occupational (non-management) position.
> 
> I just took a $45K pay cut when my client cut my overtime.  (Yes,
> I am a contractor, but not independent.)  The paper is full of ads that
> pay more than $45K.
> </rant>
> 
> I really hope you mistyped that and meant "unreasonable" :)
> 
> George
> 
> Digital Wokan wrote:
> >
> > I have a daughter, so unless a company is going to pick up daycare, I
> > think $45K is reasonable for a former all-in-one IT department.
> > Especially when I was pulling $55K and was told by the CEO that I'd be
> > raised to $65K in a year or when we went public, whichever came first.
> > (3 weeks unemployed and climbing.)
> >
> > My biggest gripe is companies that don't advertise a position to anyone
> > but recruiters and maybe a friend or two and then try to pass you over
> > because you were sent to them by a recruiter.  I'm *SO* sorry I can't be
> > your NFL party buddy from years back, employers.
> >
> > Linux wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 11:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > From: Matt Alexander <m@netpro.to>
> > > > To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > > > Subject: Re: Network Engineer
> > > > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > > >
> > > > I like the part about needing 5 years of experience with
> > > > Win2K and other operating systems that haven't been
> > > > out that long.  It reminds me of a few years back when
> > > >  I was seeing job listings for "Senior Java Developer -
> > > > Must have 8-10 years experience with
> > > > Java programming in an Enterprise environment."
> > > >
> > >
> > > I find these ads very humorous myself!
> > >
> > > > But you do make an interesting point.  I think that
> > > >  those of us in this industry have been WAY overpaid
> > > >  for quite a few years now.
> > >
> > > I disagree.  One has a reasonable expectation of make a living.  $35,000 a
> > > year is a start.  There is a shortage of tech people why?  Long Hours, Low
> > > Pay, HIGH level of Responsibility!  I can hang around a car lot 50 hours a
> > > week and make $50,000 plus a year with little or no education.  There is a
> > > skill however it is a "soft" skill.  I think most people can sell a car with
> > > a couple weeks training and a few months coaching.  Should you not make
> > > atleast as much as a car salesman?
> > >
> > > I personally would refuse working for that kind of money unless I am
> > > learning a ton.  I hope we all refuse to work for $35,000 a year, post entry
> > > level.
> > >
> > > > As the carnage from the
> > > > dot-com bubble settles, I'm guessing that salaries
> > > > will shrink back down to a more reasonable level.
> > > > ~M
> > >
> > > Can you support your family in the Phoenix or Tucson area on $35,000 a year?
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
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