EMU WINE,...etc Everquest 3D support?
Sir Edward James William
plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:46:02 -0700
I need to play my favorite games ie Everquest, Civilization 2, Alpha
Centauri, Sims
Does anyone know how I can make this possible? Does Wine have 3D support. I
was reading the FAQ there and a guy said he got Halflife to work.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Can anyone help?
I neeeed my EQ baaad. I hate windows MS and refuse to use it anymore. Screw
Bill Gates and the industry. I am for the software revolution DUDES
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> 1. Re: KDE theme config? (Scarlett Gately)
> 2. Re: mailing list prog access (Bob George)
> 3. PLUG Devel Meetings (Deepak Saxena)
> 4. Re: Routing as meeting topic: What interests the group? Your input
>needed! (Bob George)
> 5. RE: PLUG Presents (Lucas Vogel)
> 6. live chat (was: Re: PLUG Devel Meetings ) (proudhawk@uswestmail.net)
> 7. Re: PLUG Presents (Deepak Saxena)
> 8. RE: PLUG Presents (Alan Dayley)
> 9. Re: PLUG Presents (Bob George)
> 10. pgp test (Lucas Vogel)
> 11. Re: PLUG Presents (Jim)
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>Message: 1
>From: Scarlett Gately <scarlett@excelco.com>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: KDE theme config?
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:46:51 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>On Tuesday 10 April 2001 09:25, you wrote:
> > i downloaded 50 themes from themes.org
> >
> > how do I enable my themes through KDE? I used the LOOK N FEEL it doesnt
> > offer any options
> >
>Are you using kde1 or kde2?
>
>Scarlett
> > Please help
>
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>
>Message: 2
>From: "Bob George" <plug@bobspc.dhs.org>
>To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: Re: mailing list prog access
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:54:18 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>"Alan Dayley" <adayley@adtron.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Any particular reason why you are posting encrypted replies to the list?
> > Without the key, they don't help me. ;^)
>
>Well, if you'd READ the message, you'd know! Sheesh!
>
>- Bob
>
>
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>
>Message: 3
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:05:07 -0700
>From: Deepak Saxena <deepak@csociety.purdue.edu>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us,
>plug-devel@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: PLUG Devel Meetings
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>
>Alrighty then. Time to get PLUG-devel meetings started. We've discussed
>this a little in steering and decided that since we already have 3 meetings
>a month at the moment, we're going to stick to plug-devel meetings only
>every other month. The key question is on what day? At some point, while
>discussing the west side meetings,someone posted a list of what meetings
>happend on what day. Anyone still have that info?
>
>~Deepak
>
>
>--
>Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500
>
>MontaVista Software, Inc. - Powering the Embedded Revolution -
>www.mvista.com
>
>Audiences today lack all ability to comprehend anything artistic. Having no
>grasp of metaphor, subtlety, or allusion they want instead everything
>direct,
>predictable, and simplistic.
>
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>
>Message: 4
>From: "Bob George" <plug@bobspc.dhs.org>
>To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: Re: Routing as meeting topic: What interests the group? Your input
> needed!
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:44:10 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>"foodog" <foodog@pop.phnx.uswest.net> wrote:
>
> > Bob, personally I don't mind the occasional semi-black box... I'd like a
> > little bit of #1 followed up with some realworld application via #3.
> >
> > My immediate interest is understanding what would be required to get a
> > vtun VPN up and running between home and work, FWIW. :-)
>
>Actually, the distributed cooperative lab I referred to is based on the use
>of (as-yet unencrypted) GRE tunnels between both Cisco and Linux devices
>for
>exchaning BGP routes. The tunnels are more of an iproute issue, but we can
>include some notes.
>
>- Bob
>
>
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>
>Message: 5
>From: Lucas Vogel <lvogel@exponent.com>
>To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'"
> <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: RE: PLUG Presents
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:26:44 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: 10 Apr 2001 11:34:55 -0700
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>From: proudhawk@uswestmail.net
>Subject: live chat (was: Re: PLUG Devel Meetings )
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>oh yeah. there is still the live chat forum I have setup on irc
>(through one of 5 servers).
>you can access chan linux on the following servers:
>pretorian.ath.cx 6667
>blueseed.ath.cx 6667
>karma.ath.cx 6667
>pcman.ath.cx 6667
>
>live chat can occur concurrently to the meetings as well as any other time
>(we also need a stable userbase). so use the service (thats what I'm
>offering).
>
>Also, I'd like to offer my services for newbies who need systems setup. I'm
>getting
>pretty good with most flavors of linux, still need practice with BSD and
>solaris.
>
>let me know guys....
>
>
>On Tue, 10 April 2001, Deepak Saxena wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Alrighty then. Time to get PLUG-devel meetings started. We've discussed
> > this a little in steering and decided that since we already have 3
>meetings
> > a month at the moment, we're going to stick to plug-devel meetings only
> > every other month. The key question is on what day? At some point,
>while
> > discussing the west side meetings,someone posted a list of what meetings
> > happend on what day. Anyone still have that info?
> >
> > ~Deepak
> >
> >
> > --
> > Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500
> >
> > MontaVista Software, Inc. - Powering the Embedded Revolution -
>www.mvista.com
> >
> > Audiences today lack all ability to comprehend anything artistic. Having
>no
> > grasp of metaphor, subtlety, or allusion they want instead everything
>direct,
> > predictable, and simplistic.
> > ________________________________________________
> > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
>post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> >
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>Message: 7
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:42:34 -0500
>From: Deepak Saxena <deepak@csociety.purdue.edu>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: PLUG Presents
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>
>Please stop encrypting your messages unless you tell us whos public
>key you're encrypting with and we can get their private key. :)
>
>~Deepak
>
>On Apr 10 2001, at 11:26, Lucas Vogel was caught saying:
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>Message: 8
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:45:17
>To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>From: Alan Dayley <adayley@adtron.com>
>Subject: RE: PLUG Presents
>Cc: Lucas Vogel <lvogel@exponent.com>
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>
>Lucas! All your posts are encrypted. We can't read them.
>
>Alan
>
>At 11:26 AM 4/10/2001 -0700, you wrote:
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>
>Message: 9
>From: "Bob George" <plug@bobspc.dhs.org>
>To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: Re: PLUG Presents
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:56:04 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>"Alan Dayley" <adayley@adtron.com> wrote:
>
> > Lucas! All your posts are encrypted. We can't read them.
>
>Speak for yourself! I'm piping his messages through distributed.net and
>should have all the answers in, oh, 14 years or so.
>
>- Bob
>
>
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>
>Message: 10
>From: Lucas Vogel <lvogel@exponent.com>
>To: plug1 <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: pgp test
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:59:39 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
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>
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>Lucas Vogel
>Exponent, Inc.
>lvogel@exponent.com
>623-587-6739 work
>623-587-4191 fax
>===========================
>http://www.exponent.com
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>Message: 11
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:01:31 -0700
>From: "Jim" <farli@qwest.net>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: PLUG Presents
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>On Tuesday 10 April 2001 10:39, you wrote:
> > I actually looked at it the first time posted but have been percolating
> > it in my head for a while. I think this is something we should
> > definetely do. Here are a couple of suggestions/questions/action items
> > in completely random order as I pull them out of my head.
> >
> > 1) Is this going to be a conference only or conference/exhibit thing?
> > You mention a PLUG booth, so I have this image of an exhibit floor.
> > I suggest that this be a conference only type thing.
>
>No vendor exhibits? I think, and have been checking to see if we can get
>two 5,000 sq ft rooms - one for conferences, one for exhibits
> >
> > 1a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN
> >
> > 2) Get ASULug involved. Young, motivated people, good exposure for
> > them, etc, etc.
>
>Wanted to see if we had enough support in PLUG before I contacted Monika
> >
> > 2a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN
> >
> > 3) Is this a local only event or is this something we want to open up
> > to the outside world to? But keep it limited. Something like Ottawa
> > Linux Symposium, which only allows like 1000 people. If we're trying
> > to get exhibitors, it will be much more compeling for them to come
> > here if there are lots of people showing up. But..one of the reasons
> > I think exhibitors might be an issue is that ALS is just after this
> > and LinuxWorld is just before this, so people might not be willing to
> > spend cycles on a new event that hasn't proven itself.
>
>According to Rebecca Sobel at LWN there is and embedded conference in
>Boston Sept 4-7 and an O'Reilly P2P conference in DC Sept 17-20. Those
>are the only competition that I was aware of
> >
> > 3a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN
> >
> > 4) Can people register only for one day or do they register for both
> > days?
>
>I was hoping for on-line, mail, and walk-in registration. Kimi says she
>can do the on-line part
> >
> > 4a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN
> >
> > 5) I propose shortening the time slots for speakers and making them 1:15
> > hour only. 1 hour talk, 15 minutes q/a. From my experience at
> > conferences and from talking to "presentation consultants", people start
> > loosing interest after the first 45 minutes unless it's really really
> > lively. Here's a slightly modified schedule. I've also proposing a
> > break between each session, so that people can mingle, grab drinks,
> > bathroom, etc, etc.
> >
> > 07:30 - 08:30 Registration
> > 08:30 - 09:00 Welcome/Breakfast(?)
> > 09:00 - 10:30 Opening keynote (Alan Cox? :)
> > 10:45 - 12:00 Session 1
> > 12:00 - 13:15 Lunch
> > 13:30 - 14:45 Session 2
> > 15:00 - 04:15 Session 3
> > 16:30 - ??:?? BOFs
> > - Put out a call for BOFs on the web site
> > - Ending time depends on each BOF and when the
> > site(bar :) closes
> > Day2
> >
> > 08:00 - 08:30 Registration
> > 08:30 - 09:00 Welcome/recap
> > 09:00 - 10:30 Session 4
> > 10:45 - 12:00 Session 5
> > 12:00 - 13:15 Lunch
> > 13:30 - 14:45 Session 6
> > 15:00 - 17:00 Panel Q/A
> > 17:00 - ??:?? BOFs
>
>Schedule is open to discussion
> >
> > Something else to think of is whether we want a technical and a
> > business track. The keynote would be first, and than during each
> > following speaker time slot we'd have two parallel presentations, and
> > than the Q/A session with everyone involved.
>
>Two tracks mean more speakers, more expense
>
> >
> > 5a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN
> >
> > 6) What's a good site in town? We don't have a convention center
> > yet AFAIK.
>
>I have some responses, mostly from Mesa so far - still working on the site
> >
> > 6a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN
> >
> > 7) Another position is web site/machine admin. Someone to run the
> > machine that will host the web site plus setup the registration
> > forms, etc, etc.
>
>Anyone can code tables for a website - I think Kimi might volunteer
> >
> > 7a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN
> >
> > 8) Other possible speakers:
> >
> > Larry Augustine
> > Ted T'so
> > Linus (I can dream can't I?)
> > Bob Young
> > Bruce Perens
> > Miguel Icaza(sp)
> > Someone from MV :)
> > NOT Richard Stallman
> >
> > Action Items.
> >
> > The following are things that IMHO we need to get done in the next two
> > to three weeks(end of month) if we're going to get this thing going:
> >
> > - Checking account (do we need non-profit status??)
> > - Physical meeting of all volunteers to organize things
> > (This thursday during/before/after regular meeting)
> > - Start getting volunteers (someone ping ASULUG)
> > o Once volunteers are setup, we should have weekly IRC meetings
> > and meet physically at least once a month, probably more often
> > as we get closer.
> > - Register domain (linuxat10.org??) plus get a dedicated machine
> > with a mailing list for announcemnts to the world and get the
> > web site setup.
>
>Agreed. I will make sure the issue is brought up on Thu and see who else
>is willing to volunteer.
> >
> > ~Deepak
> >
> > ps: My Stallman rants come from having seen the man speak several
> > times. All he does is rant about GNU this and GNU that and
> > "we're not OpenSource, we're free" blah blah blah. The man
> > received a $25K community award at LinuxWorld and proceeded
> > to get on stage and do nothing but bitch about how it should be
> > GNU/Linux.
> >
> > On Apr 08 2001, at 08:55, Jim was caught saying:
> > > Now that the lists are back up and running, maybe I can get some more
> > > response to my proposal at
> > >
> > > http://www.users.qwest.net/~farli/Linux10.html
> > >
> > > I have done some preliminary contacts and we CAN do this. I CAN'T do
> > > it alone tho. Robert Leonard has expressed his interest and I am sure
> > > I can count on Paul and a few others, but IF we proceed with something
> > > like this, it is gonna take a lot more than three or four people.
> > >
> > > At least take the time to read the proposal.
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> > > Jim
> > >
> > > Bliss comes from within, ignorance from without
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