\_ Jamie Zawinski, however, might really hate *NIX, which might explain some \_ of Netscape's mail probs under *NIX. I wouldn't think of jwz as a *NIX hater....xemacs, xscreensaver, prolly others. I won't say that he doesn't hate *NIX, but if he does, he's spent enough time in the trenches to *really* hate it. :-) David