open source and classified software
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Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:13:52 -0700
Y'all bust me up.
> ...The GPL is no ordinary license.
And THEY are not ordinary by any measure.
THEY can do anything THEY want, AT WILL.
* On Mon, Nov 13, 2000 at 03:17:57PM -0700, Kevin Buettner wrote:
> On Nov 13, 2:20pm, Michael Sheldon wrote:
>
> > If it's classified, it certainly won't be a workstation owned by the
> > employee. Installing classified software onto a personal workstation would
> > almost certainly involve prison time.
>
> I was referring to machines owned by the employer used by the employee
> on the employer's behalf. If media is provided to the employee to
> install on such a machine, is that not a form of "distribution"? Even
> if it is not, if some form of "distribution" occurred to make the
> software available to the employer, it seems to me that the employee
> is still a "third party" (see below) and as such is entitled to a copy
> of the software.
>
> > Let's use a better example. If I mod EMACS, and loan you my computer for the
> > weekend, are you entitled to the source?
>
> I honestly don't know. The GPL is no ordinary license. Here is
> section 2b from the GPL which describes one of the conditions you
> must meet regarding modified works:
>
> b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in
> whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any
> part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third
> parties under the terms of this License.
>
> Under this clause, I might well be entitled to the source. (Note the
> phrase "to all third parties".) I think the answer to this question
> hinges on the meaning of the word "distribute".
>
> Again, I would suggest getting legal advice to resolve these sorts of
> questions.
>
> > This is the position employers are
> > generally in. The employee has no rights to the software, it's the employer
> > that is licensed. And, believe me, you should be happy about this.
> > Otherwise, if your employer was violating a software license for software
> > they had installed on your company-provided workstation, *you* could be held
> > responsible as the end-user.
>
> I agree that this is the case for most licenses.
>
> Kevin
>
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