[azipa] We need Help! (fwd)

[Lucas Vogel]

True, very true. I vote to keep these coming, though. I don't know what
others feel about this(besides D. Taylor, of course:) but doing contract
work helped me get started, and I'd do contract work again if I didn't
love the job I have now so much. I'm not an advocate of recruiting
companies; most of them are pimps, no doubt, but when you need work
and/or experience bad enough, it doesn't matter what they're like. All
that matters is getting a job.


"D. Taylor" wrote:
> 
> I do look around.  Every other billboard seems to be
> for an IT pimp these days.  I wonder why that is.  :)
> 
> Nuthin' wrong with profitability in the extreme, I reckon!
> 
> <RANT>
> 
> The way I see it, the difference is that if, say, H.A.L.
> hires a mainframe service tech for a 50k salary, sends
> him on-site, and bills a customer for, say, 150 an hour,
> I can understand it because H.A.L. provides a LOT of value
> in terms of infrastructure (documentation, warehouses around
> the country full of parts waiting to be overnighted, communications,
> ancillary personnel, yada yada yada) to the process--infrastructure
> without which the service tech could not function.
> 
> Compare this to the infrastructure of a pimp: two fax machines.
> 
> </RANT>
> 
> D
> 
> On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Lucas Vogel wrote:
> 
> > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 17:58:27 -0800
> > From: Lucas Vogel <lvogel@exponent.com>
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'"
>      <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: RE: [azipa] We need Help! (fwd)
> >
> > I used to share your sentiments; that is, until I worked as a permanent
> > employee for some of the different companies in the valley(to include a
> > company that presents itself on this mailing list). The practice of billing
> > a significant amount while paying the person doing the work a much smaller
> > sum is a very common business practice. Look around at most, if not all
> > companies doing business today.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: D. Taylor [mailto:dtaylor@www.dssolutions.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 6:48 PM
> > To: quatsch
> > Subject: Re: [azipa] We need Help! (fwd)
> >
> >
> >
> > > Because we might have some people on the list who don't mind being whored
> > > out :).
> >
> > Yeah, it always starts out that way.  Then after awhile the ho
> > discovers that she's being billed out by the two fax machine
> > (connected back-to-back; one receives the timesheet, the other
> > transmits the invoice) pimp at 150 an hour to cover her 50k
> > salary and fax expenses.
> >
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, der.hans wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:28:02 -0700 (MST)
> > > From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
> > > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > > To: quatsch <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > > Subject: Re: [azipa] We need Help! (fwd)
> > >
> > > On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, D. Taylor wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > <RANT>
> > > >
> > > > > ...(no agencies or recruiters, please)...
> > > >
> > > > Like, duh.
> > > >
> > > > Out of curiousity, how is this posting (a pimp
> > > > seeking ho's) not spam?
> > >
> > > Because we might have some people on the list who don't mind being whored
> > > out :).
> > >
> > > If the consensus agrees with you I will try to be a bit more
> > > discriminating in the postings I forward over to PLUG. To be honest, AZIPA
> > > is not a tech list (at least not the way most of us view tech :), so keep
> > > that in mind when viewing posts from that list. That's part of the reason
> > > I don't clean up the subject or headers.
> > >
> > > > The job postings for companies looking to hire
> > > > someone with *nix experience to work DIRECTLY
> > > > for said company I can appreciate.  But pimps
> > > > casting nets for ho's?
> > >
> > > At least they're advertising for Linux. Sucks to be in the kink no one
> > > wants ;-).
> > >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > der.hans
> > > --
> > > # +++++++++++=================================+++++++++++ #
> > > #  der.hans@LuftHans.com                  www.excelco.com #
> > > #            http://home.pages.de/~lufthans/              #
> > > #   I'm not anti-social, I'm pro-individual. - der.hans   #
> > > # ===========+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=========== #
> > >

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