Help?

[Furmanek, Greg]

I know exactly what you guy are going through.
It is a vicious circle:

This is what I have heard on all my interviews:
1. You need a degree.
2. You need 2 years of experience.
3. We do not want to put time or money into training you.

I got lucky.  I got a job in one of those
mom & pap computer shops which jumpstarted the 
interest of others.

If you want to do the development itself it is 
good to start in some QA department and then 
move towards programming.

If you want sysdamin position it seems the easiest
way to do it is to work in one of the hardware
shops and take a lot of Unix/NT classes.
Volunteering your time to some places as a sysadmin
will bring experience you can put on the resume.

Sometimes it is good to go to a company which
has a development / support department in them 
and get a different position and then advance.
(This is not easy but possible.)

The Wolf



-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Codie William Masters [mailto:retsamedoc@home.com]
-> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 8:29 AM
-> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
-> Subject: Re: Help?
-> 
-> 
-> :: Raises Hand ::
-> 
->     You are not the only one Nate, I just turned 16 today. 
-> No kidding about
-> the McDonald's thing. This reminds me about the fact I have 
-> CompTIA Network+
-> Certification (We had a networking class  it at PV High) but 
-> I haven't found
-> anything that it would help me at yet! Not even the 
-> certifications help
-> much...
-> 
->     -Zach
-> 
-> ----- Original Message -----
-> From: "Nathan Saper" <natedog@well.com>
-> To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
-> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:38 PM
-> Subject: RE: Help?
-> 
-> > And some of us (or perhaps just me?) are 15-year-olds 
-> looking for ANY
-> > computer work that is available.  Trying to put off 
-> McDonald's as long as
-> > possible...
-> >
-> 
-> 
-> 
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