Holy War: RE: Package management vs. ./configure

Barnett, Blake bbarnett@bloodsystems.org
Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:44:12 -0700


I've had various problems installing packages from source, and usually it
points to the libraries.  check your /etc/ld.so.conf, make sure that you are
either installing your libs to /usr/lib or that /usr/local/lib is in your
ld.so.conf, and run ldconfig (to check where your libs are run: ldconfig -v
| grep libname, you could also run: locate libname.) 

The weakness of compiling is that you need to know where everything is on
your system.  If you have neither the desire nor the time to do this (better
than saying clueless? :P )  then maybe dpkg is a good option.  (even on
redhat?  haha) 

*  Blake


-----Original Message-----
From: Craig White [mailto:CraigWhite@azapple.com]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:36 AM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: RE: Holy War: RE: Package management vs. ./configure


I know that there is no free lunch here regardless.

Along with my futility in setting up the UPS monitoring...

I tried installing openssh-2.2.0 from the tarball from openssh.org  - says
that I needed openssl-0.9.5a (and of course I was using an older version). I
downloaded the 0.9.5a from openssl.org and installed it and still openssl
says that it wasn't installed. So then in my desparation to get the UPS
system going, I found an rpm for openssh2 on contrib.redhat.com and
installed the rpm - still won't work ARGH!!!!

I don't mind using tarballs but when one tarball depends on another tarball
and the first one doesn't put the files where the second one expects them to
be - it's all a bit too painful.

I guess I'm just venting because I know I'll get it worked out but it takes
too much time...the benefit is, I learn more about each package using
tarballs and reading thru the source code but I don't want to be an expert
on every tarball that I install.

The argument for package management is obvious but all the various distro's
put things in different places and for obvious reasons - when it comes to
redhat - they can't distribute openssl/openssh and it's a complete pia.

I don't mind ./configure but I just wish that ./configure were a bit more
intelligent about the various distro's sometimes.

Craig

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Shawn
> T. Rutledge
> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:24 AM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Holy War: RE: Package management vs. ./configure
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2000 at 08:43:21AM -0700, Jim wrote:
> > As far as ease-of-installation goes, HelixCode wins hands down.
>  Not only does
> > it install all of the selected Gnome packages that you request,
> it finds,
> > downloads, and installs all the dependent packages.  What could
> be easier?
>
> Well I'd be really reluctant to use it on a system that has other kinds
> of package management, because it would get it confused wouldn't it?
> Maybe on a Slackware system.
>
> --
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