Summer on PCs

George Gambill ggambill@computer-guidance.com
Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:43:16 -0700


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20, maybe 25 years ago, Motorola ran tests on IC v temperature.  Their
findings indicated that for every 10 degrees C (18 degrees F) you increase
the ambient temperature of an IC's environment you cut it's life in half.
 
Hope this helps.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:Mark.Peoples@asu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:52 PM
To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
Subject: RE: Summer on PCs



ditch the ether.  =) 

link coming your way 

marco 

-----Original Message----- 
From: J.L.Francois [ mailto:frenchie@magusnet.gilbert.az.us
<mailto:frenchie@magusnet.gilbert.az.us> ] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:51 PM 
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us 
Subject: Re: Summer on PCs 


It seems like on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:27:35PM -0700, Armin Hartinger
scribbled: 
Orig Msg> I'd like to move my constantly-running Linux server into the
garage. One 
Orig Msg> less humming noise-maker in the house. Now the question to those 
Orig Msg> Arizonians is, if any of you has experience with running PCs at
such 
Orig Msg> high environment temperatures. 
Orig Msg> 
Orig Msg> Temperature is the biggest issue. Of course, I'd try to pick
components 
Orig Msg> which aren't already running hot (so no o/ced CPUs, 10K SCSI
drivers or 
Orig Msg> similar). Still, the question remains if maybe the whole attempt
to run 
Orig Msg> a PC with standard office components at outside temperatures isn't

Orig Msg> entirely futile. 
Orig Msg> 
Orig Msg> Any experiences? 
Orig Msg> 
Orig Msg> -Armin 
Orig Msg> 

I am currently in the process of converting a refrigirator to being a server
cabinet for 
9 servers in my garage. 

Due to the nature of refrigerators being designed to keep cold in and air
out, 
I am learning how to drill just the right holes to have 1 cable in for power

and 1 cable out for Ethernet and still keep the integrity of the fridge. 

That is the only thing slowing me down since I only want to cut once 
without hitting any internal coils. 

I tested the unit for condensation by putting in 2 motherboards overnight 
and then pulled them out. The freezer gets too cold for PC equipment but 
the bottom half is ok. 
Just to be safe I plan on putting in baking soda and some dessicant in the
fridge 
section. 

Used fridges are dirt cheap. 

I'll make sure to put pictures on my website when it is complete. 

Jean Francois - JLF Sends... 
President & CEO - MagusNet, Inc., MagusNet.com, MagusNet.Gilbert.AZ.US 
MagusNet, Inc. - Design * Develop * Integrate 
Director Of Managed Services - OpNIX,Inc., www.opnix.com 
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=340293115-21122000>20, 
maybe 25 years ago, Motorola ran tests on IC v temperature.&nbsp; Their findings 
indicated that for every 10 degrees C (18 degrees F) you increase the ambient 
temperature of an IC's environment you cut&nbsp;it's life in 
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=340293115-21122000>Hope 
this helps.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mark Peoples 
  [mailto:Mark.Peoples@asu.edu]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:52 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
  RE: Summer on PCs<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <P><FONT size=2>ditch the ether.&nbsp; =)</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>link coming your way</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>marco</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: 
  J.L.Francois [<A 
  href="mailto:frenchie@magusnet.gilbert.az.us">mailto:frenchie@magusnet.gilbert.az.us</A>]</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:51 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Subject: Re: Summer on PCs</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>It seems like on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:27:35PM -0700, Armin 
  Hartinger scribbled:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; I'd like to move my 
  constantly-running Linux server into the garage. One</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Orig Msg&gt; less humming noise-maker in the house. Now the question to 
  those</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; Arizonians is, if any of you has 
  experience with running PCs at such</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; high 
  environment temperatures.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; Temperature is the biggest issue. Of 
  course, I'd try to pick components</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; which 
  aren't already running hot (so no o/ced CPUs, 10K SCSI drivers or</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; similar). Still, the question remains if maybe 
  the whole attempt to run</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; a PC with 
  standard office components at outside temperatures isn't</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Orig Msg&gt; entirely futile.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; 
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; Any experiences?</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>Orig Msg&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; -Armin</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Orig Msg&gt; </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I am currently in the process of converting a refrigirator to 
  being a server cabinet for</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>9 servers in my 
  garage.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Due to the nature of refrigerators being designed to keep cold 
  in and air out,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>I am learning how to drill just the 
  right holes to have 1 cable in for power</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>and 1 cable 
  out for Ethernet and still keep the integrity of the fridge.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>That is the only thing slowing me down since I only want to 
  cut once </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>without hitting any internal coils.</FONT> 
  </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I tested the unit for condensation by putting in 2 
  motherboards overnight</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>and then pulled them out. The 
  freezer gets too cold for PC equipment but</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the bottom 
  half is ok.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Just to be safe I plan on putting in 
  baking soda and some dessicant in the fridge</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>section.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Used fridges are dirt cheap.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I'll make sure to put pictures on my website when it is 
  complete.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Jean Francois - JLF Sends...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>President 
  &amp; CEO - MagusNet, Inc., MagusNet.com, MagusNet.Gilbert.AZ.US</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>MagusNet, Inc. - Design * Develop * Integrate</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Director Of Managed Services - OpNIX,Inc., 
  www.opnix.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>OpNIX - Simply Better Bandwidth</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>602-770-JLF1 - Cellular, ICQ:&nbsp; 8137851</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>My Certifications: <A 
  href="http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=1214021" 
  target=_blank>http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=1214021</A></FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Doing my part to educate the Clubie Illiterati.&nbsp; One 
  LART at a time!</FONT> </P><BR>
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