What shell we do with the Microsoft.....

Jim W farli@wiredglobal.com
Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:59:50 -0700


Being a monopoly is not against U.S. law.  Using that monopoly to suppress
or control other markets, however, is.  In truth, government is a monopoly -
at every level.  They have no competition and control 100% of the market.

Now who would use a monopoly in Operating Systems to control the Browser
market or the Office Productivity market?

Jim

the future is now

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Parrish <cparrish@computerprep.com>
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
<plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....


>I believe that according to the anti-trust laws. *Being* a monopoly in an
>open market *is* against the law. (course I could be wrong. Memory of my
>history class is foggy at best)
>
>Carl Parrish
>Webmaster
>ComputerPREP.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Jim W
>Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:19 PM
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....
>
>
>Not quite, Carl.  The judge has decreed that M$ is a monopoly.  The
decision
>about whether they violated any law is still pending.  I agree that the
>judge's decree seems to indicate that he believes that there were laws
>broken, but until he states that in public, under the U.S. constitution, M$
>is still innocent.
>
>Jim
>
>the future is now
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Carl Parrish <cparrish@computerprep.com>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
><plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 2:13 PM
>Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....
>
>
>>
>>The courts seems to disagree with you. They've already judged that M$ did
>>infact break the law.
>>
>>Carl Parrish
>>Webmaster
>>ComputerPREP.com
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>>[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Joseph
>>T. Tannenbaum
>>Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:48 PM
>>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>>Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....
>>
>>
>>They didn't "break the law", they just were not nice.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>>> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Kevin
>>> O'Connor
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:21 PM
>>> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>>> Subject: Re: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....
>>>
>>>
>>> The buying public doesn't 'decide' ... They follow like lemmings.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has broken the law. There are penalties for that.
>>>
>>> Kevin O
>>>
>>> "Mark R. Myers" wrote:
>>> >
>>> > My vote is to do nothing and leave Microsoft alone.
>>> > No one put a gun to anyone's head and said that they had to purchase a
>>> > Microsoft product.
>>> > No tobacco company got someone addicted to nicotine against their
will.
>>> > With the AOL/Time Warner merger, it will make them a much larger
>company
>>> > than Microsoft and should provide some formidable competition.
>>> > I like free software, but more importantly, I love free enterprise.
>>> > I say, let the buying public decide, not a judge.
>>> > There were no lawsuits by Sony when the VHS format (invented by
>>> JVC) beat
>>> > out Betamax, even though Betamax was a better product.
>>> > I say, let the market decide. Let the people decide.
>>> > There are some Microsoft products that I do like.
>>> > Microsoft gave me a free copy of Windows2000 Professional (see, they
>are
>>> > getting into free software! :-)  )
>>> > IMHO, it is the best OS that they have put out yet.
>>> > But again, let the people decide.
>>> > I DO NOT like Microsoft's businesses practices. I think Bill
>>> Gates' parents
>>> > never taught him how to "play nice."
>>> > But there are other companies that I don't like their business
>practices
>>> > too.
>>> > I purchased SuSE 6.3 (I will give all of the disks away free to
>>> anyone who
>>> > wants them).
>>> > For some reason, I could not get it to print.
>>> > I never had that problem with any other brand of Linux.
>>> > When I contacted customer service via e-mail concerning the issue, as
a
>>> > registered SuSE users, I was informed that basic customer
>>> service did not
>>> > include the ability to make your computer able to print.
>>> > I am sorry, but I think that printing is one of the main
>>> reasons PCs took
>>> > off in the first place. I consider printing to be a "basic need" of an
>>> > operating system.
>>> > So I disagree. I think Microsoft should be scolded for
>>> predatory business
>>> > practices, and that is that. Let the buyers decided.
>>> > I guess I'm just too much a disciple of Milton Freedman economics.
>>> > Mark
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Furmanek, Greg" <Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com>
>>> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:01 PM
>>> > Subject: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....
>>> >
>>> > > I have great suggestion how to equalize the market MS
>>> > > is monopolizing!!!
>>> > >
>>> > > Fine MS $15,000,000,000.00 and donate the money to
>>> > > Free Software Foundation!!!!
>>> > >
>>> > > The Wolf
>>> > >
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>>> --
>>> Kevin O'Connor
>>>
>>> "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright,
>>> white
>>> light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God.
>>> In
>>> a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX
>>> SYSTEM
>>> FOR THE 386."
>>> (Matt Welsh)
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