Forcasting PEP consumers [was]: [snip] Event Planner Project [was]Re: Event Planning Project

[Joseph Sinclair]

Bryan,
    We most certainly will not be doing any of the first 18 things in 
your list, and the remainder will be considerably smaller than you're 
thinking.  The reason being that it turns out they aren't a good idea in 
many cases, including, I think, this one.  For a LOT of information 
regarding what is wrong with heavyweight methodologies (What you have 
here is a list of the artifacts produced by heavyweight methodologies, 
mostly large-scale RUP) take a look at www.xprogramming.com, 
www.extremeprogramming.org, agilemanifesto.org, and 
alistair.cockburn.us/crystal/crystal.html for a small sample of 
information on lightweight methodologies.
Take a look at the Apache projects, or Eclipse or Debian, or a host of 
other open source projects, you will be very hard pressed to find much, 
if any, of the artifacts in your list, and (nearly)all of those projects 
may be considered highly successful in the open source community.  Open 
source doesn't work well with heavyweight methodologies, so it's 
extremely rare to see them put together.  I'm hoping to see a 
lightweight/agile approach used here, as it provides the disciplined 
framework needed for successful results, while avoiding the heavy 
overhead that would kill the project.

Bryan.ONeal@asu.edu wrote:

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>As for a real project does that mean we will be doing:
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>Executive Summary	
>Project Description
>Project Objectives
>Project Scope
>Project Deliverables
>Project Schedule
>Business Analyses	
>System Architect
>Use Case Diagram
>Class Diagrams
>Class Relationship Diagrams
>Sequence Diagrams
>Database Table Designs
>Package Diagrams
>Network Model Diagrams
>Test Plan and Test Results (On each phase)
>Post Mortem Review (on each phase)
>Required Support
>Project Documentation
>System Documentation
>User Manuals
>Training Manuals
>Maintenance Documentation
>System Implementation	
>Application Installation Instructions
>Etc. ?
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>And all the other goodies that make both a project both successful and a PITA :)
>If So I believe we could really do something good and that will be very
>successful :)  If not it could still be interesting, but I would have far less
>faith in its survival.
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