Arguments against Hungarian Notation

[Carl Parrish]

Okay I *long* ago decided to give up on Hungarian Notation. (I think
only VB programmers seems to like it). I now find myself in a shop with
a *lot* of previous VB programmers who are converting to Java. So I want
them to stop using hungarian notation. So far the only argument against
it I could remeber is that it violates OO abstraction. But I *know*
there are better arguments against than that. Anyone have any sources or
know of any good reasons against?

Carl Parrish