From plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Sat Sep 22 21:38:10 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from phxlinux.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB85D32A0008; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:38:10 -0700 (MST) X-Original-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from mail-yb1-f174.google.com (mail-yb1-f174.google.com [209.85.219.174]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F19332A0007 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:38:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yb1-f174.google.com with SMTP id d9-v6so7040858ybr.12 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:38:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=STh9f8UoLeRMhuxYb9ij3QAqNiBUA52D+eq06TMmxyM=; b=d+nUsrkMF6nAIKrRqsItKMhiqJSWh95ShIrU//Amt9KoaTVTl+YlMmZmFmPxvaKEmw sZQrH8AaQaILXy4XGnUpmKenNDq2t2ZWlwgSlbioGt4JnI8A06m5EDEHSupc7o8EaDAt jAVqY+P7uKo6WLoB2RWaClE9BaJAOD7SCFn3jmLbH0R1l2XxjvbeWE6Jwpe4XywgC6IS GztmKxkbPNSQ+Ngnirv/mfp3XYT39NgPFrtYT2l2UHNVObl36a+bUjmtlfV267EMdaZa V13ptQcY/VXL+p6JaA6jsKcVjj/o3hGde+1U2H7VNcUndaHPAErd1mhck8Ddr8Jg8jqp EiyQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfojB6ATXj7uIr6xG6jyd1PXmNdTKIrH7O7/dd0tbQi7QYDpBKT1z /kQqr3RB7lJPFLf8MPjE4gV2s+WRtbNSHQjtwM7zew== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV60yIYNUQmP70peJraQbCfl5wTWVgvlMRwNEOJg8zeDZ3Zb+h/JLFHCQOPb7YUm5eyfBofZklK2rwOCKeBa6k5Q= X-Received: by 2002:a25:c905:: with SMTP id z5-v6mr2039082ybf.265.1537677488826; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:38:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Ed Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2018 21:39:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: zfs on linux To: Main PLUG discussion list X-BeenThere: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Main PLUG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1510619109722946271==" Errors-To: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Sender: "PLUG-discuss" --===============1510619109722946271== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000802d9805768270dd" --000000000000802d9805768270dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Michael - ZFS will run on Linux, but is most at home on FreeBSD - and the only way to boot from an encrypted partition that I have heard of. Might be worth a look. On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:29 PM Michael Butash wrote: > Good to know, thanks for that. > > Encryption is high on my list, as aside from raid/redundancy, but would > really like to find a better way vs. md+luks+lvm+fs to do > hardware+encryption+volume management. > > I might try to reconstruct a device to do zfs, hoping it's more suitable > for production than 2 years or so ago I tried it last. Then encryption was > brand new and arch couldn't deal with booting off it. > > -mb > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 8:38 PM Todd Cole wrote: > >> I have have been using ZFS raid for over a year on several servers >> Proxmox both spinning and ssd's and ssd L2arc with spinning disks after the >> learning curve I have nothing bad to say other than it does suck up ram >> but worth the loss it is stable fault tolerant perfect what I do. easy to >> replace or add drives. I have not used encryption --- yet >> todd >> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 7:22 PM Michael Butash >> wrote: >> >>> Anyone actually using zfs on linux out there? Ala something like this >>> >>> ideally? >>> >>> When last I installed arch, there was a limit in the kernel that >>> couldn't boot zfs for some reason, but otherwise tried it and liked what I >>> saw. I'm more interested in encryption+boot if possible, but don't know >>> anyone using zfs for anything real yet. >>> >>> I'd like to replace my md+luks+lvm setup with something that can do all >>> native for raid+encryption+dynamic volumes, just would love to see someone >>> else doing so already. >>> >>> -mb >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> -- >> Todd Cole >> Ubuntu Arizona Team >> 2928 W El Caminito >> Phoenix AZ 85051-3957 >> toddc@azloco.com >> 602-677-9402 >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --000000000000802d9805768270dd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael - ZFS will run on Linux, but is most at home on Fr= eeBSD - and the only way to boot from an encrypted partition that I have he= ard of. Might be worth a look.

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:29 PM Michael Butash <michael@butash.net> wrote:
Good to know, thanks for that.<= /div>

Encryption is high on my list, as aside from raid/= redundancy, but would really like to find a better way vs. md+luks+lvm+fs t= o do hardware+encryption+volume management.

I migh= t try to reconstruct a device to do zfs, hoping it's more suitable for = production than 2 years or so ago I tried it last.=C2=A0 Then encryption wa= s brand new and arch couldn't deal with booting off it.
<= br>
-mb

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 8:38 PM Todd Cole <toddc@azloco.com> wrote:
I have have been using ZF= S raid for over a year on several servers Proxmox both spinning and ssd'= ;s and ssd L2arc with spinning disks after the learning curve I have nothin= g bad to say other than it does suck up ram
but worth the loss it= is stable fault tolerant perfect what I do. easy to replace or add drives.= I have not used encryption --- yet
todd

On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 7:22 PM Mich= ael Butash <mich= ael@butash.net> wrote:
Anyone actually using zfs on linux out there?=C2=A0 Ala something like this ideally?=

When last I installed arch, there was a limit= in the kernel that couldn't boot zfs for some reason, but otherwise tr= ied it and liked what I saw.=C2=A0 I'm more interested in encryption+bo= ot if possible, but don't know anyone using zfs for anything real yet.<= /div>

I'd like to replace my md+luks+lvm setup with = something that can do all native for raid+encryption+dynamic volumes, just = would love to see someone else doing so already.

-= mb
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