From plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Wed Jun 20 18:17:26 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from phxlinux.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043B132A0008; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:17:26 -0700 (MST) X-Original-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B2332A0007 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:17:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210.cox.net ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20180621011724.KPBK4184.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210.cox.net> for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:17:24 -0400 Received: from [172.16.5.111] ([107.182.226.228]) by fed1rmimpo210.cox.net with cox id 1DHM1y0074wJ4BP01DHPQV; Wed, 20 Jun 2018 21:17:23 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A090208.5B2AFCA3.0042, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=aaYRpVgt c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=qfzra+CGgP+EgYnzv9vEAQ==:117 a=qfzra+CGgP+EgYnzv9vEAQ==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=Bp52dQ1QlK8A:10 a=8jmLXnc-AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=qd1UI2nrAAAA:8 a=nmsZ7TFJaOLQuAk_XQMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=9r9czHdooN_F_sU5qAoA:9 a=8eK9PBnHruck1xSs:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Y6nf0_fmiiQhFgXbLSS7:22 a=qrIFiuKZe2vaD64auk6j:22 a=Rf78iB88kbcEjsXYuAON:22 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=vodhner@cox.net From: Victor Odhner Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Lecture on used computers: was Cheap new Linux laptop advice? Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 18:17:22 -0700 References: <9CB39B46-BC8C-45B0-B3F8-5C51451EA352@cox.net> <17bA1y00K1oaZ9c017bRU4> To: Main PLUG discussion list In-Reply-To: <17bA1y00K1oaZ9c017bRU4> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) X-BeenThere: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Main PLUG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7920227074431369658==" Errors-To: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Sender: "PLUG-discuss" --===============7920227074431369658== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F9CDB1AD-F51D-4986-977B-1A2C3C92E799" --Apple-Mail=_F9CDB1AD-F51D-4986-977B-1A2C3C92E799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Their business is fixing broken computers and recovering damaged disks, = so their experience is largely with broken equipment. This guy was the = one who saved me from myself when a computer I built in January = wouldn=E2=80=99t post: he glanced at all the connections and then turned = my memory sticks the right way around. Five minutes, no charge. :) They did get me a smoking deal on a new monitor in 2008, beat Best Buy, = but you don=E2=80=99t see stuff for sale there. They cheerfully accept = all my old electronics, to go to AZSTRUT for recycling and in some cases = AZSTRUT puts together used equipment for worthy causes =E2=80=94 I = worked with a refugee years ago who was using an AZSTRUT machine. ____________________ On 20180620, at 12:35, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 12:36:05 -0700 Victor Odhner wrote: > I think Somebody off-line mentioned Data Doctors so I dropped in > there. The main guy at that store gave me a friendly lecture on using > computers that someone else got rid of, like trade-in cars at a > dealership.=20 Hi Victor, What points did the guy make? Did the guy's advice still make sense if the store allows the customer to boot a System Rescue CD media on the computer under investigation, to test out all its capabilities under Linux? I'm interested because I occasionally buy used computers. The older the computer, the less likely I'll have EFI, Secure Boot, or driver compatibility issues. SteveT Steve Litt=20 June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --Apple-Mail=_F9CDB1AD-F51D-4986-977B-1A2C3C92E799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Their business is fixing broken computers and recovering = damaged disks, so their experience is largely with broken equipment. = This guy was the one who saved me from myself when a computer I built in = January wouldn=E2=80=99t post: he glanced at all the connections and = then turned my memory sticks the right way around. Five minutes, no = charge.
:)

They did get me a = smoking deal on a new monitor in 2008, beat Best Buy, but you don=E2=80=99= t see stuff for sale there. They cheerfully accept all my old = electronics, to go to AZSTRUT for recycling and in some cases AZSTRUT = puts together used equipment for worthy causes =E2=80=94 I worked with a = refugee years ago who was using an AZSTRUT machine.
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On 20180620, at 12:35, Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:

On = Mon, 18 Jun 2018 12:36:05 -0700
Victor Odhner <vodhner@cox.net> = wrote:


I think Somebody off-line mentioned Data = Doctors so I dropped in
there. The main guy at that store = gave me a friendly lecture on using
computers that someone = else got rid of, like trade-in cars at a
dealership.

Hi Victor,

What points did the guy make?

Did = the guy's advice still make sense if the store allows the customer
to boot a System Rescue CD media on the computer under = investigation,
to test out all its capabilities under = Linux?

I'm interested because I = occasionally buy used computers. The older the
computer, = the less likely I'll have EFI, Secure Boot, or driver
compatibility issues.

SteveT

Steve Litt
June 2018 featured = book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
http://www.troubleshooters.com/28


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