By the way, do you have an AMD cpu?  The sensors output does not seem to include the CPU, and I read it is hard to get them from AMD cpus.  So, your numbers might be a lot higher than what you see there.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm going to run the gl test and run audio at the same time. That should make it crash sooner and the audio will  also make it not go to sleep.... While i sleep.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
i'm trying to recreate the crash to make sure I didn't copy and paste the stress command with a blank space in it (which would cause the command to execute).

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
I think glmark2 crashed it just crashed it after about 2 hours



On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 9:19 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
final reading:
$ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +53.8°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

editors note: the computer has 2 venting areas with fans. I just took the side panel of and am going to run the computer without it. The new reading since doing that about 3 minutes ago is:

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +72.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +49.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +73.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +50.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +73.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +49.9°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +72.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +53.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +71.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +53.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +70.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +52.2°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +70.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +72.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +72.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +50.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +73.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +50.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +72.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +49.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

Not bad.... about a 2C drop

Now we crash it!
See you on the other side!

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
'coo' is supposed to read 'cool' as in not shorts temperature

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm just about to take a reading and then run stress again. It is pretty coo, in here so not sure if a fan would do any good.
 $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +74.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.6°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

want me to crash it now?


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, those temperatures are not that hot, but that doesn't mean some cooling wouldn't improve things.
Have you popped the case off and pointed a big fan in there and tried to reproduce the crash yet?

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
Here is around 180 seconds of readings at around 10 second intervals (if it helps):

 $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +74.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.4°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.2°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.5°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +50.9°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +53.6°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +52.4°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.8°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +74.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.1°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +74.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +74.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +52.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +74.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +50.6°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +74.5°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.4°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.8°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +75.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +51.9°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
30 mins is plenty for a test.  Try to get sensors output just before a crash

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible!

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with cutting power was already diabled

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
 $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +68.0°C  

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +45.1°C  (high = +70.0°C)
                       (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it will just be annoying.
You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't yet:


If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address that with fans and ventilation, etc.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it?


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, you're on the right track.  Try to isolate whether glmark alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well.   Then try opening up your case and point a fan in there.
Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events that might be causing the shutdown/reboot.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. that crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but a power failure outage,

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of time?

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
okay
`

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd wait.   If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by itself.  If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time.


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
run this now or after stress completes?
?

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, not yet ;-).   If it doesn't crash, you might need to stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools:

https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testing-in-linux/

So maybe kick off both stress and 
glmark2 --run-forever

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable forums.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
Just started..... lets see what happens

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
Forget darktable for now.  Did you run stress test for more than 10 seconds?

This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:

stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2  --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s

If you can get it to crash with just this stress program, then it has nothing to do with darktable


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut down an hour  and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and temperature limits.  You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the machine panics when it's just warm.

Try raising this number or disabling the feature entirely

But first check your sensors by installing a temperature monitoring program

On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with no crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2 minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of the 2 minute thing.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
 $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M --timeout 10s
stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2 vm, 0 hdd
stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s

 I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but there it is.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like a hard reboot.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington <cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote:
OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are experiencing slowness during render cycles.

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable. It seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run chrome and darktable at the same time.
___
'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set
(if I did that correctly)
so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to get a gpu.... correct?

On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty <Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote:

In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox taking all of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web browser you’re using).

 

I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see what’s, well, on top ;-)

 

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From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Michael Butash
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: computer slow

 

If I ever have that, it's usually because of something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading over time.

 

Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it from another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if something is consuming all your memory or cpu.

 

Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can tell (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card.  Depending on your desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability.

 

-mb

 

On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone know how to fix this?

 

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