Heh, windows (AKA Win Blows) has always been bloatware without any real dedicated app organization. At least with apple, the bloatware factor as some sense to it (every app contains a copy of it’s own libs and other data files). Windows doesn’t even do this right.

Linux managed to have most of the common libs and other necessary files in some common folders that all apps can look to (and those are the user land apps). Most, if not all of the system level apps usually have libs and other stuff compiled in (makes it a lot easier not having to install dependencies when all you need are the basic system level CLI apps).

-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Coding refinement Dept.


On May 30, 2024, at 2:18 PM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

Bill retired, 

On Thu, May 30, 2024 at 1:08 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

I have Kubuntu 22.04 installed.  It takes 33GB for the OS and the software I installed.  Here's what df -h returns
/dev/sda1                 916G   33G  837G   4% /
/dev/sdb1                 1.9T  1.5T  277G  85% /home/

I've been referring to windows as Bill's bugware.  I guess I should start calling it Bill's bloatware.

On 5/28/24 12:28, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
as I expected

On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 2:28 PM rusty via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
hmm.  I thought he was asking about WINDOWs fitting.  But while we're on the topic of Linux fitting, here's my Linux DF for / and /home:

/dev/sda2        37G   26G  9.6G  73% /
/dev/sdb2       1.8T  1.7T   18G  99% /home

So, ignoring home, my laptop Linux Mint fits fine in 30G.  And I've got LOTS of 'junk' loaded.  At my last job, I allocated around 30G for the Linux partition, if I remember right, which was pretty much a default install of Linux Mint.

That being said, here are some sizes for the virtual PCs I've created for the class I teach:

Ubuntu2.2: 28.92 GB
Ubuntu2.2: 25.85 GB.
MicroOS: 34.46GB
EdUbuntu: 24.0GB
CentOS: 30.15GB

Note that these were 'mostly' 'standard' installs, but obviously YMMV! (especially since MY mileage varied!)

Now, I also did a Windows install, W11 or W10 I think, and I don't think I added much to it, and it took 50.0GB

So, for Windows I agree that you're probably out of luck getting it in to 30GB! ;-)

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