https://m.do.co/c/6f0c38f7ef53 -  referral code for DigitalOcean - good for $200/for 60 days. After that, the $4/mo droplet (VPS) is good for most simple development, and can scale up or down as needed (as long as you don't increase the disk size). Anyone feel free to use it!

Disclaimer: I've worked on their backbone team since June of last year, I do not get paid for referrals :) 

As far as domain names, I go where it's cheapest for my throwaways, used google domains for a bit, but I think that's defunct (shocker). 

Best Regards, 

-Thomas Scott

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:50 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

I have not heard of and unusual blacklisting of Bluehost.



On 2023-01-25 09:21, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 8:30 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Trent,
>>
>> First question is what is in your heart?  Is the path you are
>> following
>> where you want to go?  Do not read anything into my question.  It is
>> all
>> about you, and what you want to do.
>
> I wanted to be an anthropologist (almost got a PhD), but programming
> is the next coolest thing, and until the AIs take over there are a lot
> more jobs and it pays better--even in a recession.   :)
>
>> I would suggest Bluehost and get as many months as you may need.  I
>> know
>> they have a discount for new customers and I think you have to buy a
>>
>> year or more to get the discount - worth investigating.  I think
>> they
>> use cPanel, which may or may not be of use to you.
>
> Aren't Bluehost hosted sites often blacklisted?  I need to get to this
> from my personal PC, plugged into my employer's internet.
>
>> Make sure you have shell access to your shared hosting server.
>>
>> I would stay away from GoDaddy for the only reason of price.  I
>> would
>> encourage you look at them and see how they stack up.
>>
>> I used to buy my domains at GoDaddy until the price kept increasing.
>>
>> Now I am with NameSilo.
>>
>> If you are not going to keep the website you might consider a
>> hypervisor
>> instead of shared hosting. Look at VirtualBox and Proxmox.  By using
>> a
>> virtualization software you can build your own server (good for
>> learning
>> and resume) and save a few bucks.  It will take some time and there
>> is a
>> learning curve.
>
> So basically set up a guest as a server and then connect to the guest
> like it's a server on the public internet?  My Mint development
> environment is a guest on Windows.   I am an 'occasional' Linux and
> FOSS user.
>
> Also, I like programming and software engineering and I'm always happy
> when someone does the admin for me and tells me how they want the app
> to implement security.  (That is admin is moderately fun, and thinking
> about security makes me more anxious and paranoid in general, which is
> unpleasant--so I'm even more happy to outsource as much of that as I
> can get away with.)
>
> (My general observation as an almost qualified anthropologist is that
> security professionals, whether prison guards, police, or
> cyber-security are more anxious and suspicious -- even paranoid than
> the population at large.  I suspect they start a little bit more
> anxious and suspicious [and it turns them on], then thinking about and
> coping with all the stuff bad actors can do to you all day long makes
> it ever so much more so.)
>
>> I recently configured Proxmox on a old piece hardware and am glad I
>> did.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> On 2023-01-25 07:53, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> I'm on the bench with my employer asd studying test driven
>> development
>>> using Harry Precival's Test-Driven Development with Python.
>> Percival
>>> uses a simple web site on Django as the practice or example
>> project.
>>> In chapter 9 the baby website gets put on a real hosted web
>> server.
>>> It needs to be an olde fashioned service where you have the
>> freedom to
>>> do a lot of admin work.  That is, you need to have enough rope to
>> hang
>>> yourself.  I also need a domain name and  two sub-domain names.
>> Price
>>> is important.  I will probably finish the tutorial book and throw
>> the
>>> site away instead of keeping it as a personal website.
>>>
>>> Has anyone got any suggestions for where to get a domain name and
>> a
>>> hosting service?
>>>
>>> Trent
>>>
>>> Choosing Where to Host Our Site
>>>
>>> There are loads of different solutions out there these days, but
>> they
>>> broadly fall into two camps:
>>>
>>> * Running your own (possibly virtual) server
>>> * Using a Platform-As-A-Service (PaaS) offering like Heroku,
>>> OpenShift, or PythonAnywhere
>>>
>>> Particularly for small sites, a PaaS offers a lot of advantages,
>> and I
>>> would definitely recommend looking into them. We’re not going to
>> use
>>> a PaaS in this book however, for several reasons. Firstly, I have
>> a
>>> conflict of interest, in that I think PythonAnywhere is the best,
>> but
>>> then again I would say that because I work there. Secondly, all
>> the
>>> PaaS offerings are quite different, and the procedures to deploy
>> to
>>> each vary a lot — learning about one doesn’t necessarily tell
>> you
>>> about the others. Any one of them might radically change their
>> process
>>> or business model by the time you get to read this book.
>>>
>>> Instead, we’ll learn just a tiny bit of good old-fashioned
>> server
>>> admin, including SSH and web server config. They’re unlikely to
>> ever
>>> go away, and knowing a bit about them will get you some respect
>> from
>>> all the grizzled dinosaurs out there.
>>>
>>> What I have done is to try to set up a server in such a way
>> that’s a
>>> bit like the environment you get from a PaaS, so you should be
>> able to
>>> apply the lessons
>>>
>>> Percival, Harry. Test-Driven Development with Python (pp.
>> 263-264).
>>> O'Reilly Media. Kindle Edition.   (2017)
>>>
>>> Or free at: https://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/pages/book.html
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