On Monday, December 12, 2022 at 06:28:56 PM MST, techlists@phpcoderusa.com <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
Very thought provoking Greg!!
I think the number one position that I think is going to continue to
grow and outpace all others, no matter the economy, is probably cyber
security.
Not sure how I went down this path, however I have watched a number of
documentaries on hacking and getting a job in cyber security.
I find this stuff fascinating. One video talked about the Defcon hacker
convention in Las Vegas. Admission is in cash and your devices are
probably going to be owned. The video said the FBI was in attendance as
well.
I'm sure it is like anything else, some have natural talent to become
hackers.
One of the videos I watched stated China has a goal of being able to go
toe to toe with the USA by 2025. Scary thought.
I would not like to displace anyone with a program, however that might
actually cause them to learn some marketable skills.
I have a lot of stories. Around the summer of 1980 I went to a warehouse
to buy some stuff with my father. There were 4 people in the office.
One filled out the purchase request. One pulled the product and
probably updated the product ledger. And one person took my father's
money and finalized the sale. Very people intensive.
During that era computers were too expensive, however 5 or 6 years later
the commodore and garage 8088 cpu clones became available. At that
point I'm thinking I could replace several people in that warehouse with
a program that I would be able to create from scratch in just a couple
months. And this app would be able to give up the the minute info and
do things like determine seasonality and actual demand that could be
used to create safety stock.
Oh and to stay on track, If I were to write that program today it would
be a browser based PHP/MySQL app and might take me a little longer to
create because I would include a lot of AJAX. And of course it would run
on a LAMP server.
Keith
On 2022-12-11 16:59, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Hello,
> I don't want to offend anyone but I would like to express some
> thoughts on this subject. It seems after months of this discussion it
> might be a good
> idea to set aside a special email thread to discuss this material so
> others aren't annoyed by the comments and opinions that are
> non-technical. I actually
> have enjoyed this little discussion because it proves these subjects
> are important to everyone especially technically inclined individuals.
>
>
> As for my involvement in the subject of ethics I can point to a second
> year computer science course I took at SCC in the late 90's csc200.
> As the semester wound down to the final weeks the teacher said he
> wanted us to write a short essay on the subject of how technology can
> impact the lives of others. He proposed the question: "If you had to
> write a program that would put people out of their jobs would you do
> so and why?"
>
> I remember he had us write out the ten commandments of computing in a
> program as the first programming assignment:
> CPSR - The Ten Commandments of Computer Ethics [1]
>
> CPSR - THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OF COMPUTER ETHICS
>
> cjohnson
>
> Written by the Computer Ethics Institute
>
> As a result I have researched and read many books on the subject so
> forgive me if we deviate a little. All of you mean something to me
> and others so
> lets not fight against one another.
>
> Turning to Linux again, in the next year what subject would you study
> so that you would have the skills to find good reliable jobs and
> careers to provide
> for yourself?
>
> Lets come up with a plan that is broken down into 3 months for each
> skill so that each of us has what it takes to compete for and acquire
> the best jobs and maybe just maybe we can turn the economic ship in
> the direction it need go in for all of us.
> thanks,
> Greg
>
> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 06:13:06 AM MST, George Toft via
>
> Part 2 on your 35% comment:
>
> with higher prices come higher wages and the gov't gets more taxes.
> After a few years, Congress will adjust the tax code, meanwhile the
> really low income folks who weren't paying much, pay quite a bit.
>
> Regards,
>
> George Toft
>
> On 12/2/2022 7:19 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2022-12-01 22:37, Ed via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> you should look up the difference between a recession and a
>>> depression. Odds are we will have a middling recession, but the
> real
>>> problem is and will be inflation. Inflation is a ratchet, it only
> goes
>>> in one direction and hits everyone and everything*. It's like a
>>> network that has more and more noise on the line. For context,
>>> consider that people experience something like a half dozen
> recessions
>>> in their lifetime - more or less. It's the business cycle.
>>
>> I'm old so I have lived through more bad economies than good
> economies.
>>
>> I think this one is going to be the worst of all.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> You already said it - you expect robotics to become more involved
> so
>>> go do that. Just remember robots are capital intensive - so go with
>>> the big.
>>>
>>
>> I'm specializing in browser based business web apps. I like
> robotics,
>> however at this station in my life it is probably not a good fit.
>>
>>
>>> *except for Japan and it's lost decade(s) - they had/have deflation
>>
>>
>> I think we are about to have really bad inflation for the next 10
>> years. Based on what I hear, the fed cannot raise interest rates
> high
>> enough to kill inflation because we have over 30 trillion in
> national
>> debt. It is my understanding that as they raise interest rates the
>> cost of servicing the debt goes up. Given that we may have to just
>> ride this out.
>>
>> Another thought that is floating around is the Federal Gov. likes
>> inflation. Think about it. If we have 10% inflation for the next
> 10
>> years that means the value of national debt is reduced to 35% of
> what
>> is is today.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:13 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am reading and watching YouTube videos that say the economy is
> going
>>>> to tank to maybe as bad as the depression.
>>>>
>>>> If this is true what skills are going to be in demand.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect there will be a real push to automate things so I'm
> guessing
>>>> those who can create browser based business web apps and phone
> apps
>>>> will
>>>> be in high demand. That will equate to the administrator skills
> to
>>>> support such things.
>>>>
>>>> I also expect robotics to become more involved in factories,
>>>> manufacturing, and even flipping burgers.
>>>>
>>>> What say you?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>
>>>> Keith
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