>> I laugh when I read something about these moonbats who go on about 5G signals being hazardous to human health.

Agreed, if only they understood what they do every day that is far worse for their health.

>> My guess is that T Mobile's service went down the crapper because people signed up for it, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand customers are placing on the network and either are unable to correct the problem or unwilling to spend the money to fix it.

Yup, put it out there for sale, we'll figure out if it scales or not later! 

I've been wondering how cellcos were *really* going to deal with mmwave tech, as it implies dropping radios pervasively, not to mention what it means in a city like Manhattan or Chicago. with no openness what so ever.  Traditional telcos use regional POP's all over an area to distribute that, but it's hard to build a small enough enclosure and antenna array to drop every 1/2 mile, not to mention cost.

Cable MSO's had an interesting concept, one I didn't particularly agree with, but they were using their residential cable modem/routers in your house, adding an extra radio for themselves, to advertise *their* Cox Public Wifi SSID for anyone to use that had a valid Cox, or other cable provider account.  My buddy that works there told me about that, I was like hold on, wut?  So Cox, if I used their combo modem/router thing, would take upon themselves to offer my neighbors wifi on my dime?  And, well yeah, sorta...  Apparently it's a back-end secret handshake with all the MSO's that divide and conquer the sheeple among themselves, that they all share logins between each other to allow sort of federated access doing this in each provider that participates, which was all the big ones and more.  Upside is if you pay for cox, and go to a visit someone in a comcast market, you can probably hop on someone close advertising that network, and it might be the modem of the person you're staying with!  Cable providers have lots of overhead in bandwidth on the pipe potentially you don't even use, so why not.

I see this as something like the cable mso's trying to provide something akin to pervasive high-speed wireless anywhere you go without being a cellco too (fcc frowns on those sorta things), if nothing else taking a bit of a jab at the cellco's as competition, particularly that they're now competing directly with their residential fixed-home solutions now too.  Cox apparently was planning to do cell phones at one point too, as they have fiber everywhere in their markets already, but see prior comment on fcc.

-mb



On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 11:23 AM Jim via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

What  the carriers are calling 5G is a portion of the 5G standards that don't provide the high speed service that the mmwave tech does.  For the last 40 years, the FCC has been handing over to cell phone companies chunks of spectrum that previously were reserved for over the air television.  Until some time in the 80s, the top tv channel was 83.  Then it was reduced to  69 with 70 - 83 given to cell phones.  Later they did it again with the highest tv channel being 51.  More recently the government again gave channels 38-51 to the cell phone carriers.  Currently the  top tv channel is 36.  37 is reserved for radio astronomy.  

I laugh when I read something about these moonbats who go on about 5G signals being hazardous to human health.  They've been exposed to those frequencies for decades when they were used for television.

My guess is that T Mobile's service went down the crapper because people signed up for it, they don't have the capacity to handle the demand customers are placing on the network and either are unable to correct the problem or unwilling to spend the money to fix it.

on 10/30/22 16:11, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:

Thanks for the feedback, though that really bites.  Reminds me of Sprint wireless broadband circa 2001 using fixed antennas, it was great at first, but then only in the middle of the night, as it sucked entirely during the day as it couldn't deal with the capacity either. 

I'm not surprised, real 5g using mmwave technology is really only decent to around 700ft or so, as I've used a few products for fixed wireless point to point or multipoint as well.  It's also what drives ultrawideband technology used by apple now pervasively, marketed as a "personal area network" for short range optimized use.  It's simply not *good* as a wan technology.

That said, carriers use 5G generically whether they're talking real mmwave 5G or just some enhanced version of 4G they can't market anymore unless they call it 5G too, so who knows what you're really using.

My customer is starting to use 5g in a large local 1100-some store retail chain to get off the last remnants of the last of old T1's and other crap rural broadband providers as the only choice until now, it'll be interesting to see how they fare here and other region markets in the long run.

-mb


On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 3:44 PM Daniel Stasinski via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

A while back I gave impressive stats and glowing praise on my switch to T-Mobile Home Internet.  It had a few limitations that I had to work around, but it was fast.  However, for almost a month now it has dropped to just above T1 speed most of the day and is pretty much useless.  I'll be switching back to DSL, which unfortunately is my only other option where I live.

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