1. It's a business computer. Most businesses think of IT as a cost, not a strategic advantage. Most business that treat IT as a cost center.2. Presumably, in budgeting $400 for a machine, and wanting to spend $200 on a machine, the customer is severely constrained in initial cost of ownership.3. There's no point to worrying about total cost of ownership or longevity if you can't meet the initial cost of ownership hurdle.4. Sometimes it can be reasonable, and even cost effective, to buy cheap hardware and treat it as disposable.Trent.On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 1:39 AM Eric Oyen <eric.oyen@icloud.com> wrote:I wouldn’t stop there. Some machines can now support up to 32 GB of ram. Sure, that may seem insanely expensive now, but as time goes on, you will still have more than enough machine to handle whatever the world throws at it. It’s like the 2 10 year old desktop machines I have here. They were top end gaming machines in 2008 with 32 GB of ram, 500 GB storage and Nvidia cards in the GT 9xxx series. Even today with only 2 cpu cores running at 3.02 Ghz each, those machines are still beastly. In fact, I did a game test with one of the room mates machines (he likes world of tanks but can’t get his newer machines to perform all that well) and pitted it against both of mine. Frankly, he want s mine (but doesn’t have the funds).
Btw, the motherboards on these machines are as follows:
1. Intel core2 duo cpu on an ASUS IL0-9 pro with 32 GB ram (DDR3 800 Mhz FSB) and 500 GB HDD with a 32 GB Nvidia GT-9600 video card.
2. AMD X2 CPU running at 3 Ghz with 32 GB ram (same as above) on a Tyan Motherboard using a Nvidia 9800-GTX 32 GB card. Also has 500 GB storage.
His machine?
An intel i5 4 core CPU (2.66 Ghz), 4 GB ram, 256 GB HDD and the built in intel graphics using shared ram. It’s your basic E-machine brand.
So, older isn’t necessarily a bad thing if it is built up right.
So, if you are going to acquire a laptop, make it as future proof as you can. Sure, you will pay through the nose now, but will still have a beast later. :)
-Eric
> On Jun 15, 2018, at 10:31 PM, Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 22:15:12 +0000
> "Carruth, Rusty" <Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote:
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>> Personally, 4G is not QUITE enough RAM.
>
> I can get 4GB RAM to walk and talk if I use Openbox and equivalently
> svelt software. Firefox and Nautilus need not apply.
>
> But the OP is asking about a business computer, and in my opinion he
> should buy an amount of RAM that will be useful 3 years from now. I'd
> call that 16GB.
>
> SteveT
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