Same here.  I find UEFI to be superior to BIOS, but secure boot, can be problematic, but mostly because of who has to sign the boot loaders.

Most people that I have run into actually just have a beef with not having the familiar MBR style of booting, but that just comes from a lack of experience with proper UEFI boot experience, and not realizing that the way UEFI boots things is completely different to the way BIOS boots things... like not realizing that you are required to have a EFI partition on your drive.  Most of the time that I've seen an unbootable UEFI system is because the whole system was partitioned without that necessary partition, so the system will be fully installed, just without any way to be booted.

Once I wrapped my head around the way UEFI boots systems I found it to be a much better system than the old MBR method that tends to only allow the last system to load to actually boot... especially if that last system is windows.

Brian Cluff
 
On 05/03/2018 04:19 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:
I have had no issues with UEFI and Linux. The only time I have arguments with it is surrounding the secure boot process and playing nice with windows

On Thu, May 3, 2018, 4:00 PM Eric Oyen <eric.oyen@icloud.com> wrote:
I suspect that he would like to remove at least 1.5 layers of kernel code between the OS and the hardware. 

Honestly, I really wish the UEFI consortium would get with the program and compile in some BrltTY support (it's easy enough to do considering that BrltTY is lightweight, can have it's libs compiled in and should work under the UEFI Linux-like environment.

Believe me, having braille or speech available right from the POST would greatly enhance my ability to deal with specific hardware issues that crop up from time to time.

-eric

On May 3, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Stephen Partington wrote:

Bios is older than me. Is there a specific reason you want to disable UEFI? 

On Thu, May 3, 2018, 3:22 PM Matthew Crews <mailinglists@mattcrews.com> wrote:

On May 2, 2018 9:19 PM, <joe@actionline.com> wrote:

> How can I disable UEFI on my Thinkpad T430
> so I can install Linux Mint 18?
>
> I've search the net and tried numerous "solutions"
> but can't get any of them to work.

My gut tells me that you can't on your specific machine. Most motherboard vendors have deprecated BIOS support in favor of UEFI, and Intel has specifically said that BIOS will not be supported in 2020. Best get used to the idea of running with UEFI, as much as we all hate it.

Perhaps what you should be looking to do is disable SecureBoot, and then looking into installing Linux Mint 18 in UEFI mode? I'd wager that the MInt installer supports UEFI. Worst case you install Ubuntu or one of its variants, they definitely support UEFI.




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