The more reading I do about all of this the more crazy some of it sounds. I'm still interested in an article on Ars about the responses of each. Basically saying Intel said do this, ARM (which licenses Intel tech) said do this similar thing to Intel. AMD said something totally different. AMD states they do memory different so they are not susceptible to Meltdown and have limited liability with the Spectre issues. AMD, while embargo'd, may have broken that embargo and let slip what all the fuss was about before anyone was supposed to know.

So my real questions now, as a pretty serious Intel fanboi as anyone who knows me knows, what is AMD's real part in this? Are we naive to think AMD isn't also embedding backdoor ME type technologies? Are they still too small for the (pick your government alphabet agency) to worry about? Are there security people out there dedicated to finding the same type bugs on AMD now? While everyone affected so far has released some type of white paper, AMD has only given lip service, which is generally what they do anyway.

Apple uses Intel chips, but they claim they design their own chips so they are not susceptible, oh but here is a patch to fix it...

I cannot wait to see more of what AMD does because they are either the same scumbag company I have always looked at them to be ("oh look at us, we support open source", while employing a single linux engineer and not ever coming through on any of their promises, and don't claim the video graphics drivers, it's garbage, and with every promise they drop support for additional cards) or I'm going to completely give up on Intel and flip sides faster than John Kerry in a campaign speech.

I gotta say, I'm actually starting to get happy that my home file server, with all my dedicated projects and personal storage, while painfully slow with encryption because AMD doesn't include AES type instructions, is an AMD A series processor and not an i3.

I don't seriously expect Intel to offer refund or to replace all the processors in the world, that would spell bankruptcy and no one would get anything, what I do expect is to see some form of government penalty on the CEO for insider trading (government has to get their cut) but largely a sweep of the hand, a la Star Wars, and a look the other way.