'coo' is supposed to read 'cool' as in not shorts temperature On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Michael wrote: > I'm just about to take a reading and then run stress again. It is pretty > coo, in here so not sure if a fan would do any good. > $ sensors > radeon-pci-0100 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +74.5°C > > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +51.6°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) > > want me to crash it now? > > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Brien Dieterle wrote: > >> Well, those temperatures are not that hot, but that doesn't mean some >> cooling wouldn't improve things. >> Have you popped the case off and pointed a big fan in there and tried to >> reproduce the crash yet? >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Michael wrote: >> >>> Here is around 180 seconds of readings at around 10 second intervals (if >>> it helps): >>> >>> $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +74.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.0°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.2°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.0°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +50.9°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +53.6°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.0°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +52.4°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.0°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +74.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.1°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +74.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +74.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +52.0°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +74.0°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +50.6°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +74.5°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.0°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors >>> radeon-pci-0100 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +75.0°C >>> >>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>> temp1: +51.9°C (high = +70.0°C) >>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Brien Dieterle >>> wrote: >>> >>>> 30 mins is plenty for a test. Try to get sensors output just before a >>>> crash >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Michael wrote: >>>> >>>>> how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible! >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with >>>>>> cutting power was already diabled >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> $ sensors >>>>>>> radeon-pci-0100 >>>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>>>>>> temp1: +68.0°C >>>>>>> >>>>>>> k10temp-pci-00c3 >>>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter >>>>>>> temp1: +45.1°C (high = +70.0°C) >>>>>>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it >>>>>>>> will just be annoying. >>>>>>>> You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't >>>>>>>> yet: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-t >>>>>>>> emperature >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address >>>>>>>> that with fans and ventilation, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark >>>>>>>>>> alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up >>>>>>>>>> your case and point a fan in there. >>>>>>>>>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events >>>>>>>>>> that might be causing the shutdown/reboot. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. >>>>>>>>>>> that crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but >>>>>>>>>>> a power failure outage, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of >>>>>>>>>>>> time? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ` >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benchmarking-and-stress-testing-in-linux/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forums. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 10 seconds? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program, then it has nothing to do with darktable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down an hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature monitoring program >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 2 minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance of the 2 minute thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --timeout 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 vm, 0 hdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hard reboot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Partington wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing slowness during render cycles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> darktable. It seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboots the computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I saw this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can not run chrome and darktable at the same time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a gpu.... correct? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking all of memory. 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Depending >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on your desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (maybe I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. 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