how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible! On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael wrote: > as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with cutting > power was already diabled > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael wrote: > >> $ sensors >> radeon-pci-0100 >> Adapter: PCI adapter >> temp1: +68.0°C >> >> k10temp-pci-00c3 >> Adapter: PCI adapter >> temp1: +45.1°C (high = +70.0°C) >> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C) >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle wrote: >> >>> Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it will >>> just be annoying. >>> You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't yet: >>> >>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature >>> >>> If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address that >>> with fans and ventilation, etc. >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael wrote: >>> >>>> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it? >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark alone >>>>> can crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up your >>>>> case and point a fan in there. >>>>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events that >>>>> might be causing the shutdown/reboot. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. that >>>>>> crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but a >>>>>> power failure outage, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> okay >>>>>>>>> ` >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by >>>>>>>>>> itself. If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes? >>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to >>>>>>>>>>>> stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testin >>>>>>>>>>>> g-in-linux/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable forums. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for more >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 10 seconds? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress program, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it has nothing to do with darktable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when warm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut down an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature entirely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a temperature >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring program >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 minute thing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --timeout 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vm, 0 hdd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there it is. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hard reboot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing slowness during render cycles. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome and darktable at the same time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to get a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gpu.... correct? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox taking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of memory. 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Fiesta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blvd. Suite 101 Gilbert, Az. 85233 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@l >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Butash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. 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