hey eric,

call asu and find out how you can get one of their old computers. i live in gainesville and i picked up an optiplex 765 for less than $25 from the university of florida. I'm using it to build linux from scratch. my compile standard build time was like 12 minutes when doing it in a Virtual Machine. Now an SBU is 2 minutes. now it is a different/newer computer so that might have been the problem but I prefer not having to split the RAM.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Matt Graham <mhgraham@crow202.org> wrote:

On 10/22/2015 10:42 AM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com wrote:

Why are all the distros systemd(ing) disregarding the opposition?
What am I missing... :(

Redhat wants systemd, and many smaller distros follow Redhat's lead.

On 2015-10-22 13:55, Bob Elzer wrote:

Coming from centos 6 to 7, at first I was whoa, but after seeing how
fast it booted I loved it.

Boot speed is a must-have for people? This is a bit strange to me. How often do you reboot your machine? I only do that on my personal machines for kernel upgrades or power failures. Everything else is suspend-to-disk or suspend-to-RAM while the machine's not in use. For the physical machines at work, POST takes a lot longer than SysV init, so using systemd would not help very much.

GNOME3 having a hard dependency on systemd means that a lot of people will pretty much have to install it. If any frequently-used thing (MariaDB, postgres, nginx...) decides to use systemd for something, that'll be another set of annoyances for people who don't want systemd. At least openrc is still around, so people can write init scripts in bash *and* have dependency tracking/parallel startup if they want....

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