If I was still in the Phoenixarea I would be most happy too. Unfortunately I am moving out of state  even in July.

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On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Keith Smith <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
On 2015-05-21 22:32, Eric Oyen wrote:
hmmm. thats not a bad idea. It might also be helpful to the disabled
population (of which I am one, being totally blind). Since I use
ubuntu with the orca screen reader here on an old toshiba laptop that
was graciously donated to me by another member of plug over 7 years
ago, it has been used a lot. Mostly, I use it to control the various
pieces of ham radio gear I have (using the HamLib package) It also
makes radio programming a bit easier when I have to use chirp (Linux
is about the only environment where that program is even minimally
accessible using a screen reader). btw, there is also an accessibility
list over at Ubuntu where the various screen readers and how to use
them are discussed. There is also the Vinux project which was
specifically designed for blind computer users.


 Very interesting.


Combine this with a community outreach program (say for big
brothers/big sisters or the YMCA or the United way) and you might just
start a whole new generation of Linux users (and programmers) who
won't have to put up with the failing business model that is
Microsoft.



 Several members of the Tucson Free Unix Group converted a school to Linux about 15 years ago using used computers donated by one or more local businesses.

I worked in a business 17 years ago that had 650 employees.  Think about that.  Over a 3 or 4 year period they would replace every one of those computers.  Those used computers still have many years of life in them and by replacing M$ with Linux the old computer has a new life.  My experience is Linux needs less resources and old iron will perform decently especially if it is only 3 - 4 - 5 years old.  I have an 8 year old box that would do fine running Mint. And I suspect it could do so for 5 or more years.

I think the real issue is finding the volunteers to do all this work.


-eric (the other eric :) ).

On May 21, 2015, at 4:31 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

You know, thrift stores (other than goodwill) has used computers coming out of their ears. I think we need to find a thrift store that wants to unload all of this used hardware for like 25 dollars apiece and put Linux on it and get these fully functional and modern computers out to the people who need them. If you buy a modern windows computer it isn't even fully functional unless you pay for a subscription to something. I'm partial to Linux Mint but that is up for debate.
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