funny thing.... the python on my system is already python3:-)~MIKE~(-:On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Todd Millecam <tyggna@gmail.com> wrote:No, you should not worry about it.
My entire career, doing full-out conversions from python 2 to python 3 I've run into only two problems.
1) In python 3, you need to output stuff via a print() as opposed to a print "" in python 2
2) python 3 defaults all character encodings to unicode, whereas python 2 needed a unicode string specified with a u''
by python 3.4, they made it so the u'' syntax is ignored and just made into a string.
Often, to get python3, it's a package named python3
Also, everything I've seen from the head-first series is basically just fluff where the authors care more about hearing themselves talk than they do about covering the subject matter.Honestly, getting ipython/bpython installed and just tab-completing everything and using the built-in documentation is as good as any textbook, but starting out that way is kinda difficult.On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:I do have a concern though; the programs are written in Python3. In 'The Hard Way' the author is very adament about NOT using Python3. Should I worry about that? How would I go about installing Python3 with apt-get? 2.7.6 is what is installed on my system now.:-)~MIKE~(-:On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:yea James. thanks. I wish they had a free version but i suppose $50 isn't bad for a text book?:-)~MIKE~(-:On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:21 PM, James Dugger <james.dugger@gmail.com> wrote:If you are new to programming look at
"Head First Programming: A learner 's guide to programming using the Python language" by David Griffiths and Paul Barry.The Head First books take a different approach to learning. I gave this book to my 10 year old son who used it to learn programming and Python.
On Apr 5, 2015 12:24 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:No problem. I am doing it (badly) "... the hard way.":-)~MIKE~(-:On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe@gmail.com> wrote:sorry for not responding sooner, michael. everyone learns in their own way. if a course is not for you, I can at least point you at how I pick up new languages. what works for me is the old "scratch an itch" process. find something that you want to do, and do it with a language. start small, maybe checking your email or twitter. it's a matter of getting some inertia behind you.On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:---------------------------------------------------Please expand. How would you recommend I go about to learn this (not in a formal setting)? I can not afford to take classes and because of a head injury doubt I could complete it successfully anyways.In your list I notice you do not mention learning any programming language. Why is that?What do you mean by "OS shell integration"? Is that saying I need to learn BASH as opposed to Python?"string operations must mean BASH....when you say "regular expressions" is this a good resource here? Would I use this with BASH or Python or both?I notice that in http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ there is a section that covers using Python with websites so handling and forming automated web requests is probably covered in more advanced Python tutorials.So to sum it up I think I need to learn Python and BASH. Is this correct? I also need to learn XML, JSON (what do you mean when you say "from xml.dom import minidom ; import json") and SQL:-)~MIKE~(-:---------- Forwarded message ----------regular expressions (import re)string operationsOS shell integration (import os)connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land you a job in the fieldFor all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order of priority:xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json)
handling and forming automated web requests
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