To better clarify, when you get to functions, function calls, libraries/modules, and classes or objects in python,and have an understanding of SQL you'll be in a position to learn sqlalchemy.

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
cool.... my igorance just oozes! No?

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:28 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe@gmail.com> wrote:
it's a library of python

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
so how well do I need to know python to learn sqlachemy? or else can I learn it independently?

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Todd Millecam <tyggna@gmail.com> wrote:
Naw, but I took a telecommute job and am looking to move down there in November now.

For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order of priority:

xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json)
connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land you a job in the field
OS shell integration (import os)
string operations
regular expressions (import re)
handling and forming automated web requests

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes... the pen-testing stuff I was talking about earlier. I am just so flighty I don't know what to do. I think I will learn Python as I think that will be good for the easy stuff to the advanced stuff.... I'll worry about the expert stuff if I ever get that far.
Are you in Phoenix yet>

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Todd Millecam <tyggna@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, python has basically become a wrapper for C now, so there's a lot of different uses for it.  What are you learning it for?  Job?  That pen-testing stuff you were doing earlier?

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
Found a good reference.
It gives many books of varying levels.

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On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Todd Millecam <tyggna@gmail.com> wrote:
Learning Python, published by O'Reilly has a picture of a mouse on it.
If you're more familiar with programming, Dive into python is the gold standard.
If you're looking for the more "popular" way of programming, there's Introduction to Computing and Programming in Python published by Pearson--but that uses Jython, which should be avoided at all costs.

I also have a power-point presentation meant for the absolute newbie that you can find on my site:

http://tyggna.com/downloads/


On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
Can you recommend a good book for the absolute beginner? (besides saying to google it)

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