I see no real advantage to PLUG becoming a 501c3. The group has no dues and has to my knowledge never charged for anything besides a t-shirt that was purely optional. If you are so petty that you can't buy a pizza or buy yourself a few things that makes things you do for the group easier then you may be in the wrong group.

I know Hans and Brain both have contributes thousands of dollars over the years and I have never even heard them once ask for any help. Anything money I have spent on the group is because I choose to for the bettering of the group not because of a tax break.

I think the 501c3 would just add an extra burden on someone in the group to keep it up but really serve no value to the group. It won't get us more presenters or more supplies for installfest.

Just my two cents though.

Just my two cents though

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 7:05 AM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. <mailing-lists@phoenixinternet.net> wrote:

Brian,
I am glad no one has been kicked off the list. As for my comment about the 801c3 thing, I have always been against it even though a few others have been for it (I cant say I participate enough though to really have input). I know the advantages of how things are now, without any formal posted "guidelines" there is a lot of freedom. I have been in charge of volunteer groups before, and usually there are a handful at most that do 99% of the work (The reason I have not been part of a formal group for 5 years now, I got burned out). Most members just show up when they want and take what they need (could be information, good feelings, social interaction, etc), never really giving as much as they take. If the group wants to grow though and help more people, there has to be more structure. I think that was the just of my earlier post.

Gilbert

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