On Jul 19, 2014 10:26 AM, <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:

And maybe it was some confusion on my part.  I did have to turn off the UEFI? with On my Dell when I installed Linux on it.


On 2014-07-19 10:21, Kevin Fries wrote:

UEFI is not the problem. As a matter of fact,  it probably helps the
Linux enthusiasts break the Microsoft Monopoly better than anything I
have seen in a long time. 

UEFI is designed such that there is one one boot secror.  Instead, it
had 128 boot records and that number can be extended infinitely.  
The standard was also opened years ago... it was designed by Intel.

Microsoft not one to have their illegal monopoly threatened, came up
with another scheme to lock out open operating systems...
security-related OS
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-evaluated_operating_system
[2].  In this scheme, the vendor would only allow these secured,
certified operating systems to be installed.  You had a choice
initially of one... Windows, but you had only the choice of that one
on the list.

Just remember, you may recognize many names on that list, but they are
all paid operating systems.  Because the cost of this certification
is expensive.  That's why you find Enterprise Red Hat, but not
Fedora.

Well, the real joke is, most machines sold with Windows 8 have this
Bios feature turned on, but there is an option in the Bios to turn it
off.  When you are no longer limiter to certified OSes, you can
install whatever you like.

Now if HE were only as worried about making their customers happy as
they were making Microsoft happy, they would have told you that.

Kevin
On Jul 18, 2014 10:42 PM, <techlists@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:

On 2014-07-18 19:49, Jerry Snitselaar wrote:
On Fri Jul 18 14, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote:
On 2014-07-18 14:19, Bob Holtzman wrote:

On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 11:52:05AM -0700,

techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote:

From my experience Dell is Linux friendly. I'd double check if it
will run Linux though.  I think the new HP's will not.

Reason?

I think it has something to do with the bios.  I have a 4.5 year
old HP
laptop that runs Linux, however it is my understanding the new ones
will
not.

Are you talking about uefi? That shouldn't be a problem.

 I do not recall.  It has been about a year. I was going to buy an HP
laptop and either someone on the list told me it would not run Linux
or HP told me so.  I did not buy the laptop.

Last year when I bought a new Dell workstation. After telling

them I

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