I understand now..... I bought a new tower w/o a wireless card and so to connect it to the net (so I didn't need to make another 50 foot ethernet cable) I had to hardwire from the modem/router I bought from qwest to a router I bought before they started to combine modems and routers and connect that to the new box and my brother's computer. And that is why I have another network  and probably has something to do with the ssh difficulties too. however, if that is the case why can I ssh one way but not the other? 

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:44 PM, James Dugger <james.dugger@gmail.com> wrote:

Different address range.  Are you on wifi? Are you picking up a different network from another router?

On Jul 17, 2014 2:13 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
it seems I can't ssh from the host to any other computer though I can ssh from the clients to the host. (tested on two computers). It is strange, the ip adresses  on the remote boxes seem to have changed. instead of being 192.168.0.x they are now 192.168.1.10x.
gots to go to work now.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
on the server it says:

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1308/sshd      
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:22            127.0.0.1:56545         ESTABLISHED 19569/sshd: bmike1
tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:56545         127.0.0.1:22            ESTABLISHED 19568/ssh      
tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      1308/sshd      

while the client says:

tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      2546/sshd 
tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      2546/sshd      

so it looks like both are listening.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Michael Butash <michael@butash.net> wrote:
sudo netstat -anp | grep tcp | grep LISTEN

-a == all
-n == do not resolve dns (slows it down significantly)
-p == show the app opening the socket (requires sudo to enumerate)

grep tcp == look for tcp-based sockets (most apps won't use udp)
grep LISTEN == look at listening sockets, vs established that indicated something *is* connected

This is a good one to remember, this shows all your "listening" sockets.  Your ssh socket is outbound to another host, but doesn't look like sshd is listening on port 22, which won't let you in.

TCP/UDP sockets are your door into the system.

mb@host ~ $ sudo netstat -anp | grep tcp | grep ssh
[sudo] password for mb:
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      19847/sshd     
tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      19847/sshd  

First is ipv4-based socket, second is ipv6-based.  You should see similar, with 0.0.0.0 meaning it's listening on _all_ interfaces.

-mb



On 07/17/2014 12:28 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
okay,
netsstat on the server prints out a lot of data.
The first section says:
Active Internet connections (w/o servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address           Foreign Address         State     
tcp        0      0 192.168.0.4:38521       lax17s01-in-f21.1:https ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 192.168.0.4:36523       lax17s01-in-f4.1e:https ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:45886         localhost:53919         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:ssh           localhost:56545         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:44799         localhost:53919         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:47157         localhost:53919         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:53919         localhost:44799         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:53919         localhost:47157         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:56545         localhost:ssh           ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 localhost:53919         localhost:45886         ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 192.168.0.4:37884       lax17s01-in-f0.1e:https ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 192.168.0.4:45304       lax17s01-in-f5.1e:https ESTABLISHED
tcp        0      0 192.168.0.4:36525       lax17s01-in-f4.1e:https ESTABLISHED
tcp6       1      0 ip6-localhost:53614     ip6-localhost:ipp       CLOSE_WAIT

while the second section says:
Active UNIX domain sockets (w/o servers)
Proto RefCnt Flags       Type       State         I-Node   Path
unix  18     [ ]         DGRAM                    11578    /dev/log
unix  2      [ ]         DGRAM                    10914    /var/run/wpa_supplicant/wlan0
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     343530  
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     198728  
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     198167  
unix  3      [ ]         STREAM     CONNECTED     198683  
---edit out a lot of stuff--

while on the remote system netstat prints 7 lines that is basically the second section (above).

I'm not sure how to run sshin debug mode but the man page implies to run it with the verbose flag:
:~$ ssh -v mike@192.168.1.101
OpenSSH_6.6.1, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.101 [192.168.1.101] port 22.
debug1: connect to address 192.168.1.101 port 22: Connection timed out
ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.101 port 22: Connection timed out
bmike1@CQ57-1:~$ ssh -vv mike@192.168.1.101
OpenSSH_6.6.1, OpenSSL 1.0.1f 6 Jan 2014
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 19: Applying options for *
debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
debug1: Connecting to 192.168.1.101 [192.168.1.101] port 22.
debug1: connect to address 192.168.1.101 port 22: Connection timed out
ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.101 port 22: Connection timed out


:~$ ps -aef | grep sshd
root      1308     1  0 Jul15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
bmike1   19566  4242  0 11:53 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --colour=auto sshd


it doesn't seem ssh failed at any point.

:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:33 AM, James Mcphee <jmcphe@gmail.com> wrote:
Verify openssh is enabled on the server with netstat.  Verify you can connect to port 22 from client to server.  Run ssh in debug mode to see messages.  When you hit a point that it fails, then you have a better idea of what's wrong.


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
okay, so I bought a used computer to do Linux from scratch on. Well, I'm going to ssh from my primary computer to the new computer but got a 'Connection timed out' error. After googling for a bit I discovered ufw was to blame.

after I disabled the firewall I could ssh from 192.168.1.101 <parasite> to 192.168.0.4 <host>

the error I got going the other way was the connection timed out error:

ssh mike@192.168.1.101
ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.101 port 22: Connection timed out

After googling some more I thought perhaps openssh-server wasn't installed... but it is. So please.... what is the problem? I verifed openssh-client is installed but I don't know what it could be. Could you help me out?
:-)~MIKE~(-:

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