Different devices, different errors based on existence and state.

> dmesg

--- plug in the stick

> dmesg

-- what do you see, it should show something if the logic board on stick is good.

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

I was wondering, I still have that flash drive that died and wanted to see if I could resrrect it:

Well, to save you from having to wade trough text for 3 of the 8 commands the response was 'no medium found' as opposed to 'no such file or directory'.Then I thought perhaps I needed to partition it; for /dev/sdb-/dev/sdd the response was 'no medium found' and then /dev/sde said 'no such file or directory'. Why did the returns give me to different responses? 

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdc1: No such file or directory

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdd1: No such file or directory

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sde1

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sde1: No such file or directory

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdb1: No such file or directory

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdb: No medium found

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdc: No medium found

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdd: No medium found

sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sde

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sde: No such file or directory

sudo fdisk /dev/sdd

fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdd: No medium found

sudo fdisk /dev/sdc

fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdc: No medium found

sudo fdisk /dev/sdb

fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdb: No medium found

sudo fdisk /dev/sde

fdisk: unable to open /dev/sde: No such file or directory

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote:

no sweat, glad we nailed it down.

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

then mkfs -t vfat <dev guess> then dosfslabel <dev guess> <name>

thanks for your help.... couldn't of done it w/o you!

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

distro is Mint14. I tried it in a Mint12 and mX14 (if you have old hardware mX14 is the operating system for you) with the same problem. fixed it! I unplugged all the other USB drives then made guesses about what the USB port was named (/dev/sdd1, /dev/sdc1... etc)

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote:

Sounds like something went wrong with the part or file system setup. Try it in another computer if you have one, if not just try setting up the usb again.

What distro btw?

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

hmmmmm... I just noticed. When I plug the drive in an icon appears in caja representing the drive if it is in the 'computer' mode. When I open the icon an info window appears stating that the computer can't mount the file.

Is the drive dead or just in a coma awaiting someone to awaken it with a kiss?

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

i'm not sure how old it is.

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ blkid

/dev/sda1: UUID="cc83628a-2b28-40b4-8f02-c8a818ef55e9" TYPE="ext4" 

/dev/sda5: UUID="31eb4a2e-cf07-47d8-9f0a-2b12795b32fc" TYPE="swap" 

/dev/sda6: UUID="0653ee3e-f753-42a3-a6b6-dc2948cb8859" TYPE="ext4" 

/dev/sda7: LABEL="entertainment" UUID="9be45b98-d619-4a31-a951-5dd63fab9775" TYPE="ext4" 

/dev/sda8: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="F3E7-6D4B" TYPE="vfat" 

/dev/sda9: LABEL="backtrack" UUID="b75029ca-b18f-4310-8800-916ef23ea3cf" TYPE="ext4" 

*****

Nope, it doesn't see it. That is the second thumb drive that died this year. the first one was only a few months old whereas this one is a few years old. Is there any way to tell how old it is?

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM, James Dugger <james.dugger@gmail.com> wrote:

Try

$ blkid

If Linux is seeing the drive as a device it should return a UUID and a device assignment for it.

On May 6, 2014 2:46 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

unplugging it was the first thing I tried. Then I tried to fix it with a reboot (that fixed things for me before when dealing with things.

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$  /etc/init.d/autofs status

bash: /etc/init.d/autofs: No such file or directory

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ 

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ ps |grep automount

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:~$ 

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote:

unplug/plug, it should automount, if not check:

$ /etc/init.d/autofs status

automount (pid  1442) is running...

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

it isn't automounting.

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

got it all to work.... even changed the label name. What messed me up was:

$> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you don't need the one

I didn't understand at first that was part of the 'n' command.

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd

Command (m for help): o

Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0x3e8c35b3.

Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.

After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable.

Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)

Command (m for help): n

Partition type:

   p   primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free)

   e   extended

Select (default p): p

Partition number (1-4, default 1): 

Using default value 1

First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): 

Using default value 2048

Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default 3913663): 

Using default value 3913663

Command (m for help): t

Selected partition 1

Hex code (type L to list codes): ntfs

Hex code (type L to list codes):  

Hex code (type L to list codes): l

 0  Empty           24  NEC DOS         81  Minix / old Lin bf  Solaris        

 1  FAT12           27  Hidden NTFS Win 82  Linux swap / So c1  DRDOS/sec (FAT-

 2  XENIX root      39  Plan 9          83  Linux           c4  DRDOS/sec (FAT-

 3  XENIX usr       3c  PartitionMagic  84  OS/2 hidden C:  c6  DRDOS/sec (FAT-

 4  FAT16 <32M      40  Venix 80286     85  Linux extended  c7  Syrinx         

 5  Extended        41  PPC PReP Boot   86  NTFS volume set da  Non-FS data    

 6  FAT16           42  SFS             87  NTFS volume set db  CP/M / CTOS / .

 7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT 4d  QNX4.x          88  Linux plaintext de  Dell Utility   

 8  AIX             4e  QNX4.x 2nd part 8e  Linux LVM       df  BootIt         

 9  AIX bootable    4f  QNX4.x 3rd part 93  Amoeba          e1  DOS access     

 a  OS/2 Boot Manag 50  OnTrack DM      94  Amoeba BBT      e3  DOS R/O        

 b  W95 FAT32       51  OnTrack DM6 Aux 9f  BSD/OS          e4  SpeedStor      

 c  W95 FAT32 (LBA) 52  CP/M            a0  IBM Thinkpad hi eb  BeOS fs        

 e  W95 FAT16 (LBA) 53  OnTrack DM6 Aux a5  FreeBSD         ee  GPT            

 f  W95 Ext'd (LBA) 54  OnTrackDM6      a6  OpenBSD         ef  EFI (FAT-12/16/

10  OPUS            55  EZ-Drive        a7  NeXTSTEP        f0  Linux/PA-RISC b

11  Hidden FAT12    56  Golden Bow      a8  Darwin UFS      f1  SpeedStor      

12  Compaq diagnost 5c  Priam Edisk     a9  NetBSD          f4  SpeedStor      

14  Hidden FAT16 <3 61  SpeedStor       ab  Darwin boot     f2  DOS secondary  

16  Hidden FAT16    63  GNU HURD or Sys af  HFS / HFS+      fb  VMware VMFS    

17  Hidden HPFS/NTF 64  Novell Netware  b7  BSDI fs         fc  VMware VMKCORE 

18  AST SmartSleep  65  Novell Netware  b8  BSDI swap       fd  Linux raid auto

1b  Hidden W95 FAT3 70  DiskSecure Mult bb  Boot Wizard hid fe  LANstep        

1c  Hidden W95 FAT3 75  PC/IX           be  Solaris boot    ff  BBT            

1e  Hidden W95 FAT1 80  Old Minix      

Hex code (type L to list codes): 86

Changed system type of partition 1 to 86 (NTFS volume set)

Command (m for help): b

There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd.

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes

11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 sectors

Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disk identifier: 0x3e8c35b3

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdd1            2048     3913663     1955808   86  NTFS volume set

Command (m for help): w

The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.

Syncing disks.

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ 

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote:

After the 1 is t, 1 might have been selected for you by default.

start over...

$> fdisk /dev/sdd

$> Command > o (create new table)

$> Command > n (create part, 1 would be the default, maybe you don't need the 1)

$> Command > 1 (press enter 3times) -- again maybe you don't need the one

$> Command > t (select fs type)

$> Command > b (selects fat for fs)

$> Command > p (print the table)

$> Command > w (write the changes)

don't make me do a video I don't have time ;)

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

Okay.... I think I really screwed things up. YOu said:

$> fdisk /dev/sdb

$> Command > o

$> Command > n

$> Command > 1 (press enter 3times)

$> Command > t

$> Command > b

$> Command > w

$> Command > p

***The above didn't look like that. There was no '$>'

But I figured your computer was just configured differently

so I carried on!

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd

Command (m for help): o 

Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xf66cb38c.

Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.

After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable.

Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)

Command (m for help): n

Partition type:

   p   primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free)

   e   extended

Select (default p): p

Partition number (1-4, default 1): 

Using default value 1

First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): 

Using default value 2048

Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default 3913663): 

Using default value 3913663

Command (m for help): 1

1: unknown command

Command action

   a   toggle a bootable flag

   b   edit bsd disklabel

   c   toggle the dos compatibility flag

   d   delete a partition

   l   list known partition types

   m   print this menu

   n   add a new partition

   o   create a new empty DOS partition table

   p   print the partition table

   q   quit without saving changes

   s   create a new empty Sun disklabel

   t   change a partition's system id

   u   change display/entry units

   v   verify the partition table

   w   write table to disk and exit

   x   extra functionality (experts only)

Command (m for help): t

Selected partition 1

Hex code (type L to list codes): 

Hex code (type L to list codes): w

Hex code (type L to list codes): ^[^[

Hex code (type L to list codes): 

Hex code (type L to list codes): ^Cbmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd

Command (m for help): o

Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xbdd16f92.

Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them.

After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable.

Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite)

Command (m for help): n

Partition type:

   p   primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free)

   e   extended

Select (default p): b

Invalid partition type `b'

Command (m for help): n

Partition type:

   p   primary (0 primary, 0 extended, 4 free)

   e   extended

Select (default p): p

Partition number (1-4, default 1): 

Using default value 1

First sector (2048-3913663, default 2048): 

Using default value 2048

Last sector, +sectors or +size{K,M,G} (2048-3913663, default 3913663): 

Using default value 3913663

Command (m for help): b

There is no *BSD partition on /dev/sdd.

Command (m for help): w

The partition table has been altered!

Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.

Syncing disks.

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo fdisk /dev/sdd

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/sdd: 2003 MB, 2003795968 bytes

11 heads, 4 sectors/track, 88946 cylinders, total 3913664 sectors

Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disk identifier: 0xbdd16f92

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdd1            2048     3913663     1955808   83  Linux

Command (m for help): ^[[B^[[A^[

[: unknown command

Command action

   a   toggle a bootable flag

   b   edit bsd disklabel

   c   toggle the dos compatibility flag

   d   delete a partition

   l   list known partition types

   m   print this menu

   n   add a new partition

   o   create a new empty DOS partition table

   p   print the partition table

   q   quit without saving changes

   s   create a new empty Sun disklabel

   t   change a partition's system id

   u   change display/entry units

   v   verify the partition table

   w   write table to disk and exit

   x   extra functionality (experts only)

Command (m for help): q

sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd1

Disk /dev/sdd1: 2001 MB, 2001731584 bytes

62 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1017 cylinders, total 3909632 sectors

Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Disk identifier: 0x20ac7dda

This doesn't look like a partition table

Probably you selected the wrong device.

     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdd1p1   ?  3224498923  3657370039   216435558+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT

/dev/sdd1p2   ?  3272020941   930513678   976730017   16  Hidden FAT16

/dev/sdd1p3   ?           0           0           0   6f  Unknown

/dev/sdd1p4        50200576   974536369   462167897    0  Empty

Partition table entries are not in disk order

****Now when I plug the USB drive in and it automounts nothing new appears in the file manager. SO  I ran another program to see what it says:

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo sfdisk /dev/sdd

Checking that no-one is using this disk right now ...

OK

Disk /dev/sdd: 1018 cylinders, 62 heads, 62 sectors/track

Old situation:

Warning: The partition table looks like it was made

  for C/H/S=*/11/4 (instead of 1018/62/62).

For this listing I'll assume that geometry.

Units = cylinders of 22528 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start     End   #cyls    #blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdd1         46+  88946-  88901-   1955808   83  Linux

start: (c,h,s) expected (46,6,1) found (1,78,9)

end: (c,h,s) expected (1023,10,4) found (34,10,4)

/dev/sdd2          0       -       0          0    0  Empty

/dev/sdd3          0       -       0          0    0  Empty

/dev/sdd4          0       -       0          0    0  Empty

Input in the following format; absent fields get a default value.

<start> <size> <type [E,S,L,X,hex]> <bootable [-,*]> <c,h,s> <c,h,s>

Usually you only need to specify <start> and <size> (and perhaps <type>).

/dev/sdd1 :?

trailing junk after number

/dev/sdd1 :

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote:

First I was wrong to say that /dev/sdd1 would not exist it you simply unmounted it. I believe it can vary between a physical system and a VM.

-- returns the memory stick i just plugged in and assigns device /dev/sdb

$> dmesg

[  452.300827] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 4

[  452.302226] sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0

[  452.316528] sd 3:0:0:0: [sdb] 15240576 512-byte logical blocks: (7.80 GB/7.26

-- automount presents the stick to me because it has a file system

$> mount | grep sdb

/dev/sdb1 on /media/UNTITLED type vfat 

-- fdisk returns the partition info

$> fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdb1               2    15240575     7620287    b  W95 FAT32

-- use fdisk to delete the partition

$> fdisk /dev/sdb

$> Command > d

$> Command > w

$> Command > p

Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

-- use fdisk to create the partition

$> fdisk /dev/sdb

$> Command > o

$> Command > n

$> Command > 1 (press enter 3times)

$> Command > t

$> Command > b

$> Command > w

$> Command > p

Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System

/dev/sdb1            2048    15240575     7619264    b  W95 FAT32

-- make the file system if needed, I say if needed because since the partition is exactly the same and the fs is the same, automount mounted the stick for me automagically

$> umount /dev/sdb1

$> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1

$> mount /dev/sdb /mnt/foobar

$> touch /mnt/foobar/test.txt

$> ls /mnt/fobar

test.txt

-- oops forgot the renaming of volume, I'm on debian so

$> apt-get install mtools

Setting up mtools (4.0.17-1) ...

$> mlabel -i /dev/sdb1 ::usb_stick

again... gparted is your friend

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote:

if you unmounted then /dev/sdd1 would no longer be there.

Give me a few mins and I'll spin up a VM (I'm on a Mac) and I'll run through all the steps for you.

On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

bummer.... new drive:

mount

...

/dev/sdd1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)

<unmout device with file manager>

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdd1: No such file or directory

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ 

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdd1

mkfs.vfat 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)

/dev/sdd1: No such file or directory

bmike1@PresarioLapTop1:/media/bmike1/OpenELEC$ sudo e2label /dev/sdd1 Pny2G

e2label: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdd1

Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.

what am I doing wrong?

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:

that wouldn't change a vfat system but it inspired the correct search terms and I found 'dosfslabel'. Thanks for the help, man:D

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Ryan Rix <ry@n.rix.si> wrote:

Yeah, you're right Mike.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#FAT16_and_FAT32

Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> writes:
> same thing:
>
> sudo e2label /dev/sdd1 Goodwill
> e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open
> /dev/sdd1
> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
>
> could it be because it is a vfat file system? (while I love linux I
> like to have the ability for my flash drives to be used on common
> computers)
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Mike Ballon <mike.ballon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>     It's I file system label so yes, you'll need to format. If there
>     is no partition will have to create a partition before you can do
>     a mkfs gparted should do all that for you
>
>
>
>     On May 5, 2014 7:47 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         Thanks Mike. Does this error mean I need to format the drive?
>
>
>
>         sudo e2label /dev/sdc1 Goodwill
>         e2label: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open
>         /dev/sdc1
>         Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
>
>
>         This is what 'mount' shows sdc1 to be:
>
>
>
>         /dev/sdc1 on /media/bmike1/OpenELEC type vfat
>         (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,
>         showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks2)
>
>
>         and to format this and apply the label it would be:
>
>         mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdc1;e2label /dev/sdc1 Goodwill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>         :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
>
>         On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Mike Ballon
>         <mike.ballon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>             e2label
>
>
>
>
>             On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Michael Havens
>             <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>                 I have a few flash drives. When I plug them in to my
>                 computer a name referring to that flash drive appears
>                 in the file manager. I have two questions: the first
>                 is how do I change that name? The second is how do I
>                 set that name when I format the drive?
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