I would say that it is a list of Linux and related topics.

Things like programming in PHP, that'd be OT, but still fine on the
list.  Even stuff that is political in nature, but related, like
security and privacy, is relevant but OT.

Where I think it goes from OT to Off-List is when blame is being placed
on a particular organization/person or a specific remedy is recommended.
For instance: +ACI-We can't have e-mail privacy because Nixon is a weenie+ACI
or +ACI-If Carter could speak Cuban better we could have more H1B visas.+ACI
Examples of specific actions would be: +ACI-You should join my political
party so we can fight for...+ACI

To be clear, this means that in previous situations 80+ACU of the mail was
fine and relevant.  But people stayed out of the conversation because
they didn't want to be associated with that other 20+ACU.  Let's cut that
20+ACU up front and have conversations that everyone can participate in,
which is probably more likely to educate on the issues too+ACE

Thanks,
Ted

On Tue, 2013-06-11 at 17:15 -0700, keith smith wrote:

+AD4 Ok,  let's get serious.  I think maybe we should define what this list
+AD4 is all about.
+AD4 
+AD4 This list is about Linux and Linux related topics.
+AD4 
+AD4 No politics - Ok.  Can be talk about H1B visa's?  Or would that be
+AD4 prohibited?
+AD4 
+AD4 What else is prohibited?
+AD4 
+AD4 What would be allowed but OT?
+AD4 
+AD4 Installing PHP on a Linux box would be on-topic and programming in PHP
+AD4 could be allowed but off topic?
+AD4 
+AD4 I'm being 100+ACU sincere.  We all know I have posted lots of stuff that
+AD4 was political and about God.  And I know we have gotten to this point
+AD4 before.  We have even had people leave the list because they did not
+AD4 like other peoples political views or they did not want to hear about
+AD4 God.
+AD4 
+AD4 PLUG is part of the community I live in.  So I often say what is on my
+AD4 mind. 
+AD4 
+AD4 The sad thing is our Gov is imploding right in front of our eyes and
+AD4 some or most on the list do not want to talk about it.  If you do not
+AD4 want to talk about it I understand.  Not another peep from me.
+AD4 
+AD4 So lets talk Linux.  Who wants to start?
+AD4 
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