Hans,

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
Am 07. May, 2013 schwätzte keith smith so:

moin moin,


I'd like to thank all those who make PLUG possible.  I know you have put in a lot of effort to keep PLUG alive over the years.  I think I have been on the list for maybe 14 years.  1999???  I've enjoyed all the help and guidance I have received from the list members. 

Thank you all!!

Having a community that is useful and valuable is the main thing I get out
of PLUG. It's good to get confirmation that it is useful and valuable to
others.

Thank you for the thank you :).

I have had a difficult experience trying to speak with one of the main PLUG resources for about the last 3 years. 

Over the years now, when I approach him at any of the public venues. he holds up his left ring finger in full view of other members, at me from across the room, as a way to say "He's Married".  This has consistently happened in front of other women in PLUG like Jill and Kaia (even at SCALE with a large room full of my peers).  I have never interacted personally in any dating way with this member.  Others agreed that they consider it not only rude, but sexist, and something that would be appalling to Linus and Open Source gurus of my age, as well as long term friends like Chris DeBona (Google), Randal Schwartz, and others like Carla Schroder (OReilly), Greg KH (Linux Foundation).  Additionally, my calls were not answered and my email were ignored.

When I first started the Hackfests, I had a very difficult time finding a venue where networking and other resources allowed the type of Lab we wanted to do.  I was "ordered" not to move the Hackfest.   That was not similar to Linus' Benevelant Leadership model which I was accustomed in Oregon!   I ignored it, as Carla and others recommended and continued to stay in the solution building a viable group and finding a good home for those who wanted such a lab.

What would you have recommended I do?  What steps would you expect any group voting on status or censure of such a member or officer?

ciao,

Thanks 

der.hans #  "He read his obituary with confusion." -- Steven Meretzky
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