Contrary to popular belief... You cannot legislate morality. Making "hate" illegal does nothing for the society that law was written for except make it legal for the "hated" to sue the "hater". In large part minorities have self segregated themselves and don't want to change it. As much as I disagree with affirmative action, it could have been used to help them, but in the end it did not. The ongoing indoctrination of entitlement in our society with supersede any legislated help that could ever be created. Because, in the end, the attitude is not "Hey I was given a hand, I took it, and look how much better I am because of it", but rather "yeah, well you owed me anyway." Then when they fail because they had a poor attitude about it to begin with, it becomes the majorities fault as well. A mindset of a people must be changed by the character of its people. Unfortunately, the entitlement mindset in this country will not allow minorities to ever acheive rank on their own. It must be legislated. Hence, affirmative action. Nathan On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 18:06:21 JD Austin wrote: I think MLK said it pretty well: "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." We're not there yet. Someday we'll have a color blind society where malicious 'kingdom builders' will not seek to divide us; I hope in my lifetime. On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Nathan England wrote: With the fear of sounding racist, and I'm really trying not to be... We live in a culture that has spent a LOT of time trying to artificially elevate minorities in society (despite their resistance) and a lot of time trying to make the majority feel guilty for everything they say and/or do. Rappers can say and do a LOT of things that no other group can do because the belittled public is scared to death of being labeled a racist, fearmonger or as the newest generation has so eloquently put it, a "hater". Society today is really rather pathetic. Nathan On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:05:40 keith smith wrote: They say all that and more in rap music. ------------------------ Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/6/13, Derek Trotter wrote: From: Derek Trotter Subject: Re: To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2013, 11:53 AM Yes they are. In the 80 I used to listen to Doctor Demento. There's one song that comes to mind. I believe it was called The homecoming queen has got a gun. Of course that would never be played today. On 02/06/2013 11:40 AM, keith smith wrote: Things are much different today than 40 years ago, that is for sure! ------------------------ Keith Smith --- On Wed, 2/6/13, Derek Trotter wrote: From: Derek Trotter Subject: Re: To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Date: Wednesday, February 6, 2013, 11:31 AM Of course I don't actually endorse shooting them. It's just a way to express my frustration at spammers. I lived much of my life in a time where people in this country could say what they wanted without fear of being punished by the government. I forget this is no longer a free country. I'll apologize to anyone who was offended by my remarks. One more thing to consider; a government bent on taking away peoples' rights will not depend on truth. It will make up an excuse if truth does not provide one. On 02/06/2013 07:52 AM, Lisa Kachold wrote: Bad Trotter, bad! We are on the precipice of losing the last few rights we were endowed with, and you think joking about shooting spammers is noteworthy? Why don't you just hack them out of existance? Come to Hackfest the 2nd Saturday of every month at DeVry University in Phoenix from 11-2PM. Call me is you get lost! On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Derek Trotter wrote: When will it be legal to shoot the people who send out this crap? On 02/03/2013 04:09 PM, Jamie Shackles wrote: Hi! http://www.bikebrake.com/meoqvbr.html --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- "I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the obituaries page, and if I’m not there, I carry on as usual." 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