On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 17:58 -0700, Eric Shubert wrote: +AD4 At one of the InstallFests Justin Haught was showing off an android +AD4 phone he had loaded with a full ubuntu desktop. I wondered why. I +AD4 suppose because he could. +AD4 +AD4 I guess you're talking about ubuntu running bare bones on the phone. We're promoting two different products there now. One is Ubuntu for Android, which is a Ubuntu desktop running when you plug the Android phone into a dock. The other is Ubuntu on Phones which is where Ubuntu runs the whole thing and handles both the handset mode and the desktop mode. Ted