Interestingly, I have access to a number of laptops.  3 of those are Lenovo G570 systems which came with Windows 7.  There have a charger mode that turns of the charger at 80% (I think it is) and then turns it on when the battery gets down to ~40%. 

Unfortunately Ubuntu does not have such an option.  And my Lenovo x220 does not seem to either, but it does shut off the charger when the battery reaches 100% whether the machine is on or not.

As a general rule, I only plug in laptop chargers when needed or when I will have it on for a long period of time or don't want the hassle of constant screen dimming.

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
I got the cheapest black friday sale laptop they had at walmart. It is a bitchin computer!!!


On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:18 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:

I run 2 laptops all day - about 14 hours a day.  I pulled both batteries.  They are in my desk drawer where they have been for 4+ months.

Your saying it is better to just leave the battery in the laptop at 100% than to remove it?

I wonder what they life expectancy is?  What would be your guess? 

I never take the these two laptops off A/C. 

I when to laptops last year in the hope of less heat.   And I buy cheap laptops.  Both were on sale.  Cheaper than a desktop.

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--- On Sun, 5/6/12, Jim March <1.jim.march@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim March <1.jim.march@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: laptop battery cycling
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012, 4:34 PM

My VERY limited understanding is, the problem isn't "overcharging" exactly.  It's that Li-Ion batteries are weird.  They last longest when charged between 50% and 80% - as opposed to 100%.  But bad news: maintaining the battery at a level below 20% is just as bad as keeping it at 100% if not worse, so...leaving it out really isn't a good solution either.

What we REALLY need is a switch or setting in the laptop that will cause a 100% charge when you know you'll need more battery life soon, otherwise the default charge level is maintained at around 75%.  But that would confoose too many people...might be a good FOSS project for geeks though?

Failing that, the best solution is to leave it in there.  Yes, the battery will slowly degrade.  But, at least you have protection from a sudden crash if you accidentally the power plug :(.  If you can afford it, run two batteries - swapping once every week or two (or however long it takes for it to naturally drain to about 50%), with the one about to go on the shelf being deliberately drained to about 80% first.

Jim

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Robert Holtzman <holtzm@cox.net> wrote:
For the record, I'm running a Lenovo T420i with a 6 cell battery.

In the past I've been told that it's bad practice to run a laptop on AC
with the battery installed because it would cause reduced battery
capacity. This raises two questions. First, is it true that laptop
batteries don't have overcharge protection, and second, how many cycles
is a battery like mine good for?

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