Some other thoughts about plone from other plone developers...(Again, I know nothing about Drupal)<div><br></div><div><div>- regarding usage:</div><div>Plone can be used immediately out-of-the-box (Drupal needs extra configuration after installation before providing any services), and the core features offer a very decent coverage, so you start building an entire web site easily.</div>


<div>Plone is very easy to use, no specific knowledge is needed to start producing content, Drupal is most part of time more difficult (let&#39;s say Plone is contributor oriented, whereas Drupal is webmaster oriented). I would agree about plone...install it and end users can start creating pages of content right away. I set up a high school newspaper site with plone out of the box, and the students were creating news stories, photo albums, surveys, etc. within a couple of hours. All with the built in workflow, so the school administration could review/approve/reject all content before it was published to the Internet.</div>


<div><br></div><div><div>- regarding admin sys:</div><div>Plone provides a fully integrated architecture where you can easily deploy clustering, caching, load balancing, etc...</div><div>whereas Drupal is only a component (actually a set of components providing CMS features) that needs to be integrated in a global architecture. You may not care with a small site, but as it grows or you need these things, they are built in and just have to be turned on in plone.</div>


</div><div><br></div><div>- regarding development:</div><div>The Plone framework is much more robust and structured, all Plone products respect its standards (and at all levels: component architecture, testability, deployability, CSS classes, JS declaration, internationalization, everything...).</div>


<div>Drupal is more unstructured and heterogeneous. There is also a large body of open source Plone products to add new functionality and themes to change the look and feel of the site.</div><div><br></div><div>Also, some other sources if information from the plone community - </div>
<div><br><a href="http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal" target="_blank">http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal</a><br>
<a href="http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs-drupal-installation" target="_blank">http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs-drupal-installation</a><br><a href="http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal-core-features-comparison" target="_blank">http://www.sixfeetup.com/blog/plone-vs.-drupal-core-features-comparison</a></div>

<div><br></div><div>Six Feet Up is a plone developer of long standing and high involved with the development of plone itself.</div><div><br></div><div>Have fun!</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:43 AM, James Dugger <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:james.dugger@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.dugger@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">When I first got into web application development I tried both.  Plone was more intimidating to me than Drupal for the following reasons:<br>


<br>1.  It was not based on a standard simple AMP Stack.  by AMP I mean Apache, MySQL, PHP.<br>
2.  I found the web site difficult to find tutorials and help, and the forums for newbies was not user friendly at least for me.<br>3.  I was very new to high level scripting languages and PHP was and still is used more for web applications than Python.<br>



4.  By contrast not only did Drupal have easy to find tutorials for the framework but it even has tutorials on learning PHP.<br>5.  There is a lot of information/documentation for modules.<br><br>This was my experience three years ago.  Now before anyone goes crazy on me,  since this time I have come to really appreciate the elegance of python code in comparison to PHP, but at the time I new very little about it.  I believe that Plone is more extensible a framework than Drupal.  But here&#39;s a question does Plone have API&#39;s or modules to connect/extend it&#39;s capabilities with other applications like Alfresco, or Uberecart.  I know Plone is very powerful and scalable to very large enterprise level development, But then Drupal, combined with Alfresco, if developed/implemented efficiently can replace, and even convert much of traditional filesytem data such as docs and excel files and place the data in enterprise class CMS.   <br>



<br>Drupal is very flexible with style templating making it simple to modify/customize a web application to a specific customer.  They even have there own take on the CSS Zen Garden.  Because of this more web designers are getting into it for ease of site design without coding requirements.   Drupal is also easily set up to run multiple sites through a single install.  With one installation you can host hundreds of sites as a VSP with minimal up keep.<br>



<br>I really should look into Plone again because I am sure it can do most if not all of all I described above.  But of all of the communities I have experienced (considering forums, websites, tutorials, wiki&#39;s, and number of easy to access free modules) I like Drupal&#39;s over Joomla, Word Press, and Plone.  To me for open source apps, the apps community is everything.<span><font color="#888888"><br>



<br><br>-- <br>James<br><br><br>
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