Corrections:

1) If he did work there, it was before his indictment, because I find it very hard to contemplate that the press would not have, in 2008, had a field day with that employment factiod?

2) What possible context, other than gossip, petty prejudice and negatism could any fact about a child porn trading conviction take? 

3) Rational discussion of a large local employers change in ownership is what was invited.

Please keep your discussion OT James.

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:
WAIT!

Why does it not say Paul RICHARD Butts was "Security Manager GoDaddy.com" in ANY of the press or public records?  Because this man did not work there!

<bull baiting>

James, really!  You are positively too easy to reduce to pure rude emotionalism...

</bull baiting>


On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, James Finstrom <jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
For reference: http://vigilantantis.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/paul-richard-butts-guilty-24000-child-porn-images/ 

Urban legends like your resume I am sure....

I love everything I put on here gets attacked by princess know it all

/rant

-james


On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:
Hi Bryan,

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Bryan O'Neal <Bryan.ONeal@theonealandassociates.com> wrote:
My guess is he is no longer the head of security and they can afford
more A talent then they could several years ago.

Correct!  Their entire security team came to one of my Hackfests.  They were not in any way "slow" or stupid; in fact, they were all excellent (quickly answering advanced questions for tee shirts and becoming bored with limited content presentations [SSLStrip]) far and above the caliber of most the PLUG (including many quick to critique and the academics selling "formal education and community college classes" or contractors and entrepreneurs)) as most security passionate linux professionals are.

I also use GoDaddy.com for some things and support a great number of professional companies who have or currently use them. 

As for security, the GoDaddy Drupal and other point click CMS applications are patched and provide for security updates (which outdoes the PLUG, wouldn't you say)?  Their ftp and mail is relatively secure (compared with other hosting shops).   But as for actual success as evidenced by Google and MAC, management is EVERYTHING.   I know people who worked at GoDaddy, and while they can't deem to venture an opinion here, they agree management is somewhat lacking at GoDaddy.com; let's hope this changes?

But hey, sure!  Let's all dog gossip about each other?  This James originated story about the Security Manager sounds like an urban GoDaddy myth?  A discussion about a personal issue of this level (which rightly belongs in human resources, not a gosspy discussion in the PLUG) is obscene.  I heard a great one about myself recently?  All PLUG gossip is fairly useless and borne of one of the 7 Deadlies....

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 7:18 PM, James Finstrom
<jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
> um smoke crack much....
> In the end Godaddy is the wal-mart of registrars. You don't go there because
> they are the best at what they do, you go because they are the cheapest at
> what they do. I am not aware of any other registrar that will sell you a $1
> domain name. If someone else does let me know and I will be happy to use em.
> I don't use any of their up-sells but I usually buy my domains there because
> they are dirt cheap.
> As far as the old "antidote"  When their head security cant secure his own
> crap legal or not then I would suspect he can't secure others. If he is in
> the driver seat of the team I would assume he is what they consider their
> "smartest choice"
> As we have seen lately script kiddies are taking down big
> multinational corporations so all around I would say the state of security
> over all is crap.
> --James
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Steven,
>>
>> Everyone "projects" onto others what they feel themselves at first onion
>> layer.  Some of us can identify our feelings (jealousy, or another of the 7
>> deadlies) and extract gossip from fact to understanding of process and
>> duties in technical professions and shops.
>>
>> At GoDaddy.com ticket hockey is a large part of most of the jobs,
>> requiring a specific type of conformist.
>>
>> Their top linux people and developers are deeply involved; they allow
>> little creative thought or engineering direction from the mass of employees.
>>
>> It's their culture.  Unfortunately GoDaddy.com has dropped in the hosting
>> rankings over the last few years, perhaps due to inability to innovate, poor
>> support for common users, and management shakeups.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Steven Stremciuc <steven@stremciuc.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> James, that's a strange conclusion to draw from one (years old) anecdote.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:28 AM, James Finstrom
>>> <jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Years ago one of their head security guys got busted for kiddy porn.
>>>> This told me their security folks aren't that bright
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 3, 2011 6:18 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:
>>>> > Ed,
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Ed <plug@0x1b.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> GoDaddy sold for $2.25B to KKR etc
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> > Hopefully, this might give them some new management. It's like a
>>>> > Chinese
>>>> > firedrill every six months over there?
>>>> >
>>>> > The ONLY department that is well managed is their Security Services
>>>> > team.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://mashable.com/2011/07/02/godaddy-sold/
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