On May 8, 2011 12:58 AM, "Joseph Sinclair" <plug-discussion@stcaz.net> wrote:
> VMWare Player is free-as-in-beer, but it only *runs* the virtual machine.
> You generally need some other tool to *create* the virtual machine, and for anything other than relatively simple use, the administrative controls in VMWare Player are very limited.
> For more control, and the ability to create virtual machines most people end up purchasing VMWare Workstation, which is around $70 at retail last I checked.
>
> For advanced administrative options (particularly for complex requirements and/or large numbers of virtual machines on multiple servers), the VMWare enterprise tools are generally needed, and those get very costly.
>
> The primary advantage of VirtualBox is that it is both free-as-in-beer and free-as-in-freedom (the open source edition, virtualbox-ose), and the tools to manage it are included.
> VirtualBox is great for running a few occasional VM's on a well-equipped home computer.
>
> For more advanced and complex environments (such as large corporate VM deployments), F/LOSS software is still playing a bit of catch-up with VMWare enterprise tools, but it's getting there.
> For Hybrid (i.e. private/public) cloud deployments F/LOSS is actually way ahead of the proprietary alternatives, but that's also an area large enterprises are just starting to explore.
>
> On 05/08/2011 12:00 AM, Dan Lund wrote:
>> Forgive me for being pedantic on this one, but... what do you mean by limited by the admin tools and custom hardware options?
>> (I'm not being a butt about this, it just kinda folded into itself when you said that)
>>
>> --Dan
>>
>> On May 7, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>>
>>> Absolutely. It is limited only by the admin tools and custom hardware options.
>>>
>>> On 5/7/11, Dan Lund <situationalawareness@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Does the free version of vmware have bridging?
>>>> Last I used vmware outside of ESXi and vSphere was like 2005.
>>>>
>>>> --Dan
>>>>
>>>> On May 7, 2011, at 10:57 PM, Bryan O'Neal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vmware is free and very effective. Just saying...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/7/11, Judd Pickell <pickell@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> vbox does support bridging and is needed to solve the problem mentioned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:50 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably set up IP as NAT, or internal. Does vbox do bridged IPs?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Setup vbox on XP loaded CentOS 5.6 set IP different than host. Can
>>>>>>>> ping
>>>>>>>> IP of vertual server from command line of self. Cannot ping from
>>>>>>>> outside.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any help appreciated!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Keith Smith
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- On *Sat, 5/7/11, Stephen <cryptworks@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From: Stephen <cryptworks@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: visualization question
>>>>>>>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 4:06 PM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you can use either virtualbox or vmware and it will work, just set up
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> networking so that it has an IP on your physical network for simple
>>>>>>>> access.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:00 PM, keith smith
>>>>>>>> <klsmith2020@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=klsmith2020@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm running XP on a dell box and was wondering if I can install
>>>>>>>> visualization on top of that, install CentOS, and have both running at
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same time with the XP being a client and the CentOS being a LAMP
>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>> I'd like to access the docroot crom the XP box.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this possible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>> Keith Smith
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