On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:

James,

I accept your apology for the PLUG.

Have a better day.

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 1:51 PM, James Finstrom <jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com> wrote:

I am sure It would have been acceptable as a straight relay of the job. What was off topic was the personal commentary to the posters intentions and motivations ie: the subject of this email

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, keith smith <klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:

I don't think this is a " Jr cabling/desktop monkey" job. The job post says "...This position is 90% remote...".

I think this is a start up and the owner has everyone work out of their home to keep the cost down and they meet at his house.

About 12 years ago I worked for a consulting company. I was W2 and worked from home. He provided my computer, pay, limited benefits, and he worked out of his home. By doing business this way he was able to keep the cost of doing business to a minimum. I believe he started on a shoe string and just stayed there.

I believe this is an opportunity for someone to learn, grow, and get some resume material.

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Keith Smith

--- On Mon, 4/25/11, Kevin Fries <kfries6@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kevin Fries <kfries6@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Exploitation?

To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>

Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 7:31 AM

I am not sure I would go directly to exploitation. Though I would say they are trying to take advantage slightly. All the requirements are 1-3 years. I would assume there is already in place a full admin, so this person would likely be a Jr cabling/desktop monkey. Here in Denver that job would go for 40-45k a year and our tech job market is much stronger than yours. I lost my job the last day of September last year and started my job search Oct 1... started a new job Nov 15th, and I was not the first to find one... but that is Denver. Phoenix is a much tougher nut. So while the rates are low, and probably not very realistic, I think exploitation is a bit strong. I bet they find some nice kid 20-22 years old in the $15-$18 range.

Kevin

On Apr 25, 2011 7:54 AM, "Lisa Kachold" <lisakachold@obnosis.com> wrote:
> Anyone seen this: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/sad/2341174027.html
>
> --excerpt--
>
> COMPANY is now hiring a Linux / Windows Systems Admin. This is a Jr. Admin
> role. We are looking for a energetic person who has a basic background in
> administration. This position is 90% remote but you must reside in the
> Phoenix area due to weekly meetings. Please see below for skill set. Please
> do not apply if you are a seasoned admin this is a Jr. positions. Pay rate
> is $10 - $12.50 an hour.
>
> Windows Administration - 1 to 3 years
> Linux Administration - 1 to 3 years
> Networking - 1 to 3 years
> UNIX - is a plus
> Programing - is a plus
>
>
> * Location: Phoenix Area
> * Compensation: $10 - $12.50
>
> CRITICAL THOUGHT:
>
> 1) How can you require all the same responsibilities in a so-called Junior
> Systems Admin of a regular admin as a rationalization to only pay them
> $12-15 an hour?
> 2) This company is clearly not a .ORG - seems they have mis-registered their
> domain name?
> 3) Don't even sec scan their website...
>
> But hey, if you want to work from home, this might be a good gig, you can
> work 15 minutes on the hour!
>
> --
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> (623) 239-3392 Skype
> (623) 688-3392 Google Voice
>
> http://www.it-clowns.com
>
> "It took me many years but I have gained access to the root account and have
> removed the user God." -Saros

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Yes, I think this could be a good gig.

We don't have a job posts area anymore or I would have laid her there.

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